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Why players aren't coming back

more like just ignore you.

we are talking about majority , not EVERYONE want to play that class/build.

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It’s the worst of both worlds. It has the grind of a ā€œhardcoreā€ MMO but none of the difficult content. You’re grinding just to get better gear even though you will never actually need the better gear for anything because the game provides no challenge. Hardcore grind with casual level difficulty.

It feels like this is why there are so many classes that are just AFK/vendor classes so that you can just focus on one combat character and a bunch of NPC alts :joy:

I remember in beta when DPS classes weren’t yet super broken from power creep it was actually really beneficial to have a ā€œbalancedā€ party with a cleric + a taunt-swordsman + two DPS or one DPS and a semi-support. Now you’ll have just all DPS or all DPS and one ā€œsupportā€ that does as much damage as a DPS because there’s no point doing anything else. Also, world bosses actually felt somewhat challenging without being totally broken, although they took a really long time if you didn’t have a bunch of people there. They would kill you in a couple of hits but their attacks were avoidable and maximizing your DPS while dodging their attacks felt rewarding. Then they just introduced WBs that basically automatically killed you if you weren’t geared enough and everyone just farmed the lower level ones that could be killed practically instantly by the super power creep DPS… and now that’s just all of the WBs tbh, none of them have really kept up with power creep or the new damage system.

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Still fun to kill a player, even if they’re afk botting. Actually, it feels better because they don’t res and just lie on the ground afterwards, and you can teabag them if you wish.

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Three boxes in one run…Plus the drop rates of recipes are high? please tell me this update is coming to ITOS

@topic

Because after spending 70m+ on a weapon today I couldnt pass +8 refining.

OH MY GOD IM SO DONE.

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Golden anvils and get it to +11, actually if you have a lot of anvils you can do +12 too. Done.

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Hachi’s shield went up to +11 with golden anvils.

I think I made a thread somewhat similar to ^this.

When 2 practo weapon mats were still highly valued, I was farming and earning millions by the day, it was only a question of how much time you could put in it.

True, Solmiki as end game PvE is real (considering how broken PvP in this game is). But when you do miki like how I used to do it (mainly played as support chrono), by now you know you can even do 35f naked with it with full CON which means almost ZERO expenses for gears and such.

So my silver pool was growing steadily those times and my main only was using 315 blue HG gear and I can play with no problems. The game bored me I almost quitted. Then I started setting goals for ā€œend gameā€ gear because seriously, there is nothing you will do.

Let’s all just say I am decently geared now even I changed my main toon. Although I know I do not even need to push spending on it a lot just to do ā€œPvEā€ content, but what else will you do anyway?

I would legitimately not mind the total lack of challenge if there were more realistic ā€œgear goalsā€ you could set for yourself. As I said before (earlier in this thread or in another one recently? IDR), I enjoyed farming the mats for my Karacha set in beta, or farming items that had strong awakenings and awakening them with my alchemist to sell (of course after beta they gave up on the awakening system and just made it another RNG joke, lol), farming for my Terrallion and Phadas, even farming mats for 315 pract weapons (putting aside the fact that practonium itself was the dumbest idea IMC has ever had). But now there really are no realistic gear goals you can set for yourself because every piece of good high level gear is either a complete RNGfest (unidentified oranges) or restricted by the new raid. Frankly I have so little interest in trying to farm the raid for drops with the ā– ā– ā– ā–  luck I have in this game I’ve just been selling all my portal stones, since at least that’s guaranteed silver, and since that’s where most of the cost for the gear comes from (for as many materials as the new gear requires, they at least have a higher droprate than 315 mats did) again you can’t really farm for them. So gear goals now are actually just silver goals to buy gear or to buy shards and transcend/enhance your gear.

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I cannot agree more. If you are a returning player, figure out how to obtain some silver and buy cheap HG with decent stat nowadays as they will be dirt cheap soon.

Gear goals is not necesary as you can play yhe game without them. But with no gear and high in silver, at some point you will just say ā€œfock it I’ll get gears I know I dont needā€ just to have a purpose in this forever grinding game lol

I have not done Unique raid even once too. Challenge maybe couple times but really it is just like solmiki dps check floors…

Sure, Golden Anvils are so easy to get.

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They actually are easy to farm now, lol.

Not so easy to come by, but a 70m weapon is a 70m weapon. Just don’t waste them for meme gear.

Just to say.
Yesterday i tried to refine my old 315 ā€œone practoniumā€ weapon.
it was already +8 full potenzial and my targhet was just +11,

what i get was that:

until now i was unable to upgrade any weapon to +11 witout using enormous ammount of golden anvil. Yeah i got a good number of golden anvil back from old days when i farmed with a Thauma the old dungeon for money… but i also spent over 8 million to get from +8 full potential to +11 0 potential.

And it was someting like
+8, +7. +6 . +5.-+6. +7. +8. +7. +6. +5. +6, +5, +6, +7, +8, +9, +10, +9, +8, +9, +8, +7, +6, +7, +8, +9 , +8, +9, +8, +9, +10, +9, +8, +7, +6… loop infinite of fails in an EMPTY channel with empty inventory and so on.

I keep see player +21 with two or three loss of potential and i got the urge to abbandon teh game again if IMC wont bann all of them.

ps. I upgraded about 10 weapon, all the same. Maybe i am unlunky but it’s still not fair: what if i wanted to play like everyopne else? is that a good choise top let my ā€œdestiny upon an RNG system?ā€

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Tip: don’t rage anvil

I had my own share of failed enhancements too. I know the urge of just wanting to ā€œtry one more timeā€ feeling. But no, try to contain yourself next time

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I contained myself till 350 content.
If i had to have a +8 weapon i rather prefer broke it. +11 or nothing when everyone i can spectate in the game has +21 weapon -

I got so many golden anvil, id like to keep drop them but now they are so ahrd to get…

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I am not patronizing the upgrade system of this game my friend. But if you are unlucky with enhancement, you could try transcending a bit to get that extra oompf?

I’ve been there, done that with the success and depressing stories of upgrades. Good thing you only failed on a Viena mace. Imagine that on the new Masinios gears or something a bit more valuable than 1 practo weapons…

Try to get HG gear my friend, and try again your luck… good luck

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And what? Keep +6 weap and do low dmg?

As I’ve said 2 times in this topic, and other people said it too: +11 weapon right now is a must have.
With this Combat System you must have good weap to do a decent damage.

It’s not old times that you need only attributes to do dmg.
Is better to remember this.

And with R9, you need a good weapon, all INT classes put their stat in SPR because ā€œthe weapons do all dmgā€, same thing on STR classes.

I inspect a lot of people in game, yesterday I saw a player with +21 weapon with 2 potential left. Then I saw his accessories (2 accessories) and I saw +9 without losing potential, then I saw his Armor and got +9 without lose potential.
Lucky 8 times? Honestly I don’t believe it.
Because I saw other people got +11/+16 with 0 potential.

And yesterday I’ve failed from +5 to +6…

You don’t know when to stop it because it’s a RNG system, and you don’t know when you are lucky or not.

Since there are people who cheat and abuse the system, why don’t put players on the ā€œsameā€ level?
Putting players on same level means make easly to obtain +11. And I’m not telling free like others understand, but increase the ā€œsafeā€ range to +8/+9 like someone suggested.

I can understand there are people who is completely lucky, I have a friend who is lucky he have done +11 weap without lose potential, and when he got his new weapon he wasn’t lucky the 2nd time.
That’s why I don’t understand people lucky multiple times…

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Yeah, all we can do is try and try again…

I agree with +11, I also think +11 is a must. That is why I settle with +11 gears myself :slight_smile:

for me:

  1. price. booster pack > 6 month wow sub in my region.
  2. ktos and itos update delay. 1 year ago they promised other.
  3. no content except grind. its sad =(
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