some br are literate like you, but experience told me otherwise.
listen i don’t know how many time i need to stress this, there is no way i hate BR player, i do not. i have BR friends. but every single time a good server being opened to BR it’s just the same thing all over again. my heart believe that the stereotype has gone too far, but my brain doesn’t.
pfft yea right. If people would just read their own contradictions.
You claim I passed a judgment on BR’s not wanting to learn a new language:
And I’m asking for proof that such judgement was passed. Obviously you can’t because you’re pulling crap out of your ass and accusing me as if that’s what I did.
I suppose you’re a pooping chicken. K
I’m sorry but there’s no reason to be offensive. Unless you are coming here purely for bashing people.
You see english is not my first language and maybe this is the problem here, or perhaps is not your first language. As far as I understand if I say “can you pick who lives and who dies” by no means the phrase is actually targeting you, it is obviously asking you to think about it, but is not restrained to your person. That’s the spirit here, of course though, if you wanna quote a piece of it and call it an assault I can’t stop you. And your demand for proof is just a follow up from your misunderstanding that I’m trying to target you at this. You mentioned that BR just ask around for BR and do not even try to socialize when faced with other non-BR nationalities, and that is in most cases a language barrier. Is not that they don’t want to, they simply have no clue about how to communicate, and this complain is common throughout this thread. You call me a chicken if you want, I don’t really see how that can be productive but hey, I’m not gonna lash back or I might be tagged as obnoxious right ?
I see the problem now. You just have low English / comprehension skills.
Instead of:
You meant:
One shouldn’t judge another for not learning a new langauge.
Was a reply to Luniapie665 for posting a pooping chicken meme.
I’ve never really had to many issues with Brazilian players. my only issue is when the server is clearly intentional you should speak English on it. That goes for everyone. Doesn’t matter if you are from America, South America, Europe, Asia or The middle east. If you are going to play on an intentional server you need to speak English, or play on your regional server. If there is an instance where you have no regional server, then join a guild speak your native language in guild or party chat, so they can help you out, instead of spamming up shout chat.
I myself am even guilt of this when, playing games from China, Korea or Japan, you find your self spamming their chat, I’m sure they get mad. But I’ve noticed none of them really get angry and spam racist things, they seem to help you out more. Cant say the same for International Or North American servers haha!
@CookyKim
off-topic: that would be more clear, though I’m pretty sure I`ve seen this construction quite some times. If anything, not lack of comprehension on my side, either lack of comprehension of yours, or lack of writing from mine. Or both.
On-topic:
@ev0l.s0ul
Yeah I feel like if you can’t speak English at all, and are not even trying to communicate, then you should not get yourself in system matched-up parties. For the simple reason good chances are you can’t speak to anyone. As for talking in “all” chat in a different language, I don’t really see the problem, I mean, spam is spam no matter the language, and you don`t need to understand it to recognize it. Now if the chat is riddled with some language you can’t understand, well, then some international culture of non-english speakers is dominant, I mean, you log in to a game you never played and there’s only french in the chat, you simply assume there’s far more frenchs than anything else and carry on, don’t you ?
ps.: Wouldn’t you say the “you”'s written are interchangeable with “one” ? I can’t help but read them as an anonymous generalized person.
Wow, this thread.
It’s simple really: older players with more experience trying to tell Jr about how things were and still are. Jr rebels because they have yet to experience it and are told by society that they can’t think that groups of people might actually be different - and it’s labelled as stupid to think otherwise.
It is pretty much this, it’s best to keep quiet and let the new generation experience it themselves, because you know how kids are about their cherished PC wrapped in cotton-wool upbringing(coughbrainwashingcough) you know.
inb4 the exception to the rule.
Look at your original post:
Tell me that these pronouns are referring to people in general.
And these.
Then tell me this “you” isn’t referring to me but to a general population.
You replied to my post, made comments specifically to the points in my post and then tell me you’re referring to the general populace.
While the use of you referring to a general populace is used occasionally, the way you constructed your response was by no means a typical construction make response to population in general.
But now that we came to the agreement that you were not accusing me individually to judge anther unfairly as quoted here:
I will accept that it is due to miscommunication.
as for your original points:[quote=“NessiLake, post:86, topic:199064”]
it is only natural you look for people that speak your native language, so you can get some help and so on.
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Yes, Filipinos (as an example) do this as well. But do you see them spamming FILIPINO? FILIPINO? FILIPINO? all over the damn place? No, they do it decently in tagalog. Same goes for a lot of other cultures.
Not knowing English does not preclude communication and socialization. Ever heard of emoticons? And respectful (considerate) gameplay? Using “I don’t speak english” as an excuse to act like a jerk, just doesn’t roll with me.
Firstly no one is judging BRs for not knowing English, secondly not knowing a language does not exclude the capacity socialize (to some extent) and respectful gameplay.
Many online gaming community don’t speak English, but none of them get ostracized like BRs do. In conclusion your arguments to defend BRs due to language barrier just doesn’t hold much weight. As you have aptly contradicted yourself:
Pretty damn sure that isn’t because of “No knowing how to speak BR”.
As an American, do I get upset when people stereotype Americans? Yes.
As a Human being, do I think other people will get upset when someone stereotypes their Country/Race/Ethnicity? Yes.
When I see someone from one particular Country/Race/Ethnicity exhibit rude behavior to another do I harbor hatred towards their Country/Race/Ethnicity as a whole because of that one person? No, that would be silly.
Will I ever exhibit rude behavior based on a persons Country/Race/Ethnicity? No, there has never been a point in my life where I felt the need to judge someone before I knew more about them personally. If I ended up not liking an individual it had nothing to do with their Country/Race/Ethnicity but instead was result of an experience with that one person.
Every community has bad eggs, those eggs tend to stick out the most. I genuinely feel this thread has done nothing but exhibit stereotyping is still a thing, and this is why I turn off my chat until I am in a group as I dislike seeing the sheer amount of hate that for some reason the world has too much of. Good to know that tragedies of our past as a result of xenophobic, racist or general prejudice go wasted as some people don’t want to learn from the worlds history.
So as a human being, I implore people to stop stereotyping Americans, Brazilians or any country as a whole because of an experience you had with handful of them in the past.
@NessiLake I meant “you” as in anyone who is not speaking English, rather than one specific person. You are correct I probably should have made it a little more clear haha.
Some americans just like to feel superior to any other human being who doesn’t live in the same place as them, that can be seen outside games too… may be mexican, russian, asian, south american, european or not… this does not happen exclusively to BRs, they say the same thing to mexicans (trump lovers), SEA players as “Pinoys”, Russian as “Ruskies” all that in a pejorative way. BRs are only the target on this game, I’ve seen worse treatments to russians and SEA players out there, all by the same xenophobic people.
I’m BR and I’ve been around a lot of online games for a long time… and I agree that some vocal minority is what made how we’re seen right now, but the ones who spread xenophoby, are americans -the majority I encountered- and they don’t mean that exclusively to the toxic ones, but to anyone that resides on that country, that is generalizing, gentlemen… which is wrong, that is the same generalization you guys don’t like when everyone outside North America say about its citizens or american players on any online game, and you’re just reinforcing that view in this game.
Most of the hate came after the exploit, and the way IMC posted, placed the entire blame on BRs, which was wrong, since everyone could use a proxy VPN and use the same exploit, but people don’t care about that, americans/asian/europeans certainly exploited that as much as any BR ou there… Toxic players exists on every country and don’t focus on a single one, eg. the ones actually spreading hate around the community instead of playing their game, making it more unconfortable for the ones who doesn’t share the same hate, since they always bring that up.
TL;DR
Stop being such douches, you complain about BRs being toxic, but you’re the ones being toxic always bringing the hate up
You keep spreading crap on this forum seriously, and you think you are in position to talk about who is part of a bad community?
Yes, the fact that they’re talking in portuguese(yeah, because “brazilian” isn’t a language, that shows a lot about your IQ and your culture but well, your posts already showed your inefficiency to think the right way) is really boring but to put all of them in the same bag is completely stupid and demonstrates a lack of thinking and open-mindedness.
I bet there are actually a lot of BR Players doing great, but you don’t talk about them because they don’t make them noticeable.
dude you’re like a month late, do i need to keep answering this kind of hate comment?
and of course there are BR player doing great. please read my whole comment and not only ones that you don’t like. by the way congratulation for determining my IQ even though i never knew you exist in the forum before.
Should see a “normal” screenshot of FireFall’s ingame chatbox at any given time 
There are Spanish posts, Portuguese posts, Cryllic-looking posts, the occasional(rare) post that’s in Chinese, etc.
There aren’t many communication problems though, since the game is easy to grasp.
There are sometimes even French posts if you happen to make yourself lag enough to accidentally get transferred to a European channel. But mostly multilingual English speaking players that talk alot, since there aren’t any goldbots due to how FireFall’s market and trading works
I think I’ll do just fine once this game installs.
I see your point, lets just put this you/one to rest, to be truthful I still can’t help but still read it as in general, yes I was tackling your points, but was trying to speak to whoever was reading. Makes no difference either way, I feel like we have that sorted out.
Not knowing English does not preclude communication and socialization. Ever heard of emoticons? And respectful (considerate) gameplay? Using “I don’t speak english” as an excuse to act like a jerk, just doesn’t roll with me.
It is true, very true, but in my experience, I’ve hardly ever found this kind of people, and I’ve played by good share of online games. I have communicated with people who were clearly struggling to write in english, but only once or twice in my lifetime to someone who can’t speak PT, EN or ES.
But then, I haven’t seen any spam “BR BR BR ?” in the global chat, I’ve seen quite some BR’s speaking in PT that I have. Maybe I just have weird log in times ?
I’ve just hit 100 something, and I haven’t come across any rude BR playing, truth is, I haven’t been “approached” with that so far. And I have no “BR” giveaway thing in my team name
Sorry but I have not. Most of the behaviors BRs look down on BRs are just as true as any other culture.
Intentional feeding in MOBA ? Check
Lack of communication in team intensive games ? Check
Music on the communication channel ? Check
KS ? Check
Cheating ? Check
And even then, if a BR see a BR doing any of those, they will go like, oh it had to be a BR. One (AHA I GOT IT) might say this seems logic, since everyone is complaining about them, but thing is, we do it for everything it is cultural for instance,
is that guy Littering ? Had to be BR
is that guy Skipping Line ? Had to be BR
is that guy Doing stupid drunk things ? Had to be BR
[Fill here with things that you see anywhere really] ? Had to be BR
But never utter a word if it is not a BR, as if that makes the whole thing acceptable.
Making an extreme parallel and hoping not to hurt anyone, the mutt complex to BRs is like the ■■■■ Compelx (in the lack of a better term) for germans, where people hold back from anything that could be seen as discrimination bc of past stigma.
But I guess I’m overreaching on the subject, there’s a new server for SA now, so I guess everyone is happy
Ahaha now you change your arguments. Now it isn’t because of “not speaking english” that they get ostracized. It’s all these other things:
that they get tackled upon. Well, at least it is something I agree upon.
And that was the point of my initial response. BRs are easily ostracized because:
So when you present yourself as an internet alien, that looks like alien, speaks like alien, and behaves like alien, be prepared to be treated like an alien.
My point is not to justify discriminatory actions. I’m just stating the conditions that makes it happen.
"I am not racist at all " aiushiuAHSIUahsiuHS FUNNY. as a brazilian who can speak propertly english (not perfect but understandable), this is a lie, most of then just are “mean”, and racist. But you know, we dont really care 
Blame America, most racist country on the planet
I already stated that actually asked them which country they were from. So no, these were not assumptions.
Unless you imply that the people i asked lied to me when they told me that they’re BR (why would anyone do that?).
So, if you are on the streets and someone right next to you is yelling jajajaja for a whole minute in a volume so you can’t even understand your own words (aka spamming chat so much that you cant see what other people are writing) you won’t get annoyed by it? You won’t tell the other person to be quiet so you can actually have a conversation with your friends?
People don’t hate people who don’t speak english. People hate annoying people and people who don’t show common manners.