Everyone cheats, it’s not a brazilian stuff. You should know better after 19 online games. And Brazilians speaks portuguese, for god sake. It is international server, not american server, not english exclusive server, or am i wrong?
I think you guys just can’t stand us, like everyone else can’t stand the russians. No need to complain about it.
I agree with your deductions.
The reason why I reduce whether it is OK to “just an opinion” is because this pertains to the right / wrong debate which I do not want to get into.
Is it right / wrong to murder another?
Is it right / wrong to kill another species?
Is it right / wrong to murder another in times of war?
etc…
It all depends on the context, circumstances and objective. Ultimately it’s someone’s point of view from a specific set of context. My personal experience is that debates like this just end up in limbo with no clear conclusions / objectivity met. i.e. a huge waste of time.
Haven’t see a bot or seller at SA so far, so…
oh man, I’m just assuming you’re trolling me by now.
In more than one reply you have quoted me completely outside of the context.
The story so far from at least my perspective.
They are unwilling to be assimilated by other groups / cultures and will
not participate in understanding other communities besides BR.
I say
Sorry man, but I’m BR, and even though I agree we are a strong knit
group, at the same time, you will not have a hard time to find BR
blaming BR behavior and culture, it’s more common than not for BR to
look down on its own culture in favor of NA and EU.
In the same post I argue that language is a barrier for most BRs, and that is the only reason most of us don’t socialize with everyone else.
The you/one wherever thing, you seemed rather pissed at this, sorry I guess, the only portion of your post I meant to target was the one I quote above.
Either way, I don’t see how the fact that you never stated that you can judge, could make too much of a difference in my point. Even less how it could make any difference if I am or not targeting you. I don’t see any reason to make turn this into a language debate.
You say not knowing english does not preclude communication and socialization.
I agree, but point out I can hardly count the times I’ve seen this happening in like, 12 or so years playing. This argument can only be as useful as one would deem the argument that “I have already seen players doing this”
Yes, you got it right, close knit group that will have a prejudice over itself, I’m not stating this is the reason people get mad at us, It is just a list of general jerk behaviors that we do as much as other nationalities.
BUT, unlike most other countries we project ourselves in those behaviors, meaning, we will most often than not simply assume that a bad behaving person is BR.
Here some went wrong, you understood I put the list as something we do and the reason we hate on ourselves, its a list of things every other culture does and still most BRs will project BRs on it, even if travelling abroad.
I’m not making major claims over why is it okay to be super racists. There’s no reason to be okay with it at all if we are to be precise over the topic, I just wanted to argue against the ideia BRs are “anti- globalization” or wherever. We obviously have jerks, but mostly I simply feel most of it is just a mixture of self identification, like you put it yourself + self shaming.
Another thing I believe that contributes to all of this is that we don’t take things as seriously as most other countries, a lot of things one might consider to be trolling is just a joke for us.
please reply to something that is recent, not something posted like a year ago.
Lol, it’s up to you to assume whatever you want.
Prove it, or it’s just false accusations.
I suppose it doesn’t invalidate it because your disagreement holds no weight as you have quoted yourself:
BR is a close knit group > They do at times look down upon BR’s own culture > they do admire NA / EU
Sure, I can agree with what you said there
but here’s the thing:
The point is that they still don’t socialize and assimilate with other group / cultures. 
I can’t believe you think that that response actually disagrees with my point and provides enough support for your stance.
We already came to an agreement with the language thing. Why are you bringing it up again? I suppose there’s nothing else you can bring up and just need a filler to save your ass?
I suppose now it means that just because of language barrier I get to justify poor in-game behavior. As 9/10 times people who can’t speak English can’t and won’t socialize so they can get a free pass to be anti-social (jerks).
I don’t understand this. What is “project ourselves in those behaviors”?
A bad behaving person is assumed to be BR because many people have met players in the past with poor behavior, and it seemed to them that they were always BR. Thus the association of bad behavior with BR, and the creation of the BR hate meme.
What does “it” refer to?
Ok I think we are coming to the central issue. You keep mentioning this “project” thing but I have no idea what it is supposed to mean.
And you have yet to support that argument with any contrary evidence so far. BRs that are targeted are perceived to be different than cultural norms (in terms of general online culture), that’s why they are stigmatized. If they actually assimilated with the general culture, they won’t be “different” enough to be ostracized.
To argue against this point so far you’ve brought up:
I might have missed a few more points but all of them do not demonstrate that BR actually assimilate / socialize well. Now you might argue they have the intent to socialize, but that’s your opinion / my opinion sort of limbo argument. The fact remains that they DO NOT socialize / assimilate well in the online environment.
Self identifcation + shaming has nothing to do with assimilation (or anti-globalization as you put it).
Now you’re trying to justify behaving like a jerk as just “not taking things seriously”.
EDIT:
On revision I believe that I finally understand the part of my statement that is bugging you.
I said that:
And you felt that it is an unfair statement because some BR (like yourself) actually do participate in other groups / cultures. Perhaps my use of “unwilling” is not very appropriate here, as you can argue they actually are “willing to” just that they “don’t have the capacity to”, but that is not the main point of my argument.
I could easily switch that word out to “BR do not assimilate well with other groups and will not participate in the understanding of other communities besides BR”. That is my main point - that they are different enough to be ostracized.
Whether they are willing or not willing. I don’t give a sh*t. It’s a debate of opinions with no factual basis and it always ends in wasted time, with no opinions changed.
Although if you are curious of my opinion on the matter, I still think that in general they are just UNWILLING to assimilate / socialize though. And that is MY OPINION (and you can’t change it, sorry).
Also as a side note, please state your topic sentence clearly as the first line of your paragraph. It reduces a lot of confusion what you are arguing about. We would not have wasted so much time posting irrelevant arguments if instead of this:
You wrote something like this:
“I disagree that BRs are unwilling to assimilate. BRs actually want to assimilate but… (language problems, etc.)”
That would have reduced so much confusion and and steered me towards your main argument.
Wanna know why its ok to be an ■■■■■■■ towards the brs? go check their toxic attitude on the “Klaipedia/orsha are dead” threads.
??? not racist? really?
This is so not true, o hole group of br( in my opnion this is just a hole group of ppl) can speak br, and when they not, they really try , but pplz dont care, they prefer to act like " i know that he/she/they cant speak a good eanglish so ■■■■ this bastard" or " i know what this guy want to say but whatever"
so the main argument and valid is, ppl in general are racist without knowing that fact, and some other are proud of that.
lol cute response.
Thanks for demonstrating your intelligence (or lack of thereof).
@NessiLake Look at this 
Now this is a fine example of quoting out of context (and misquoting).
Since when are brazillian a race? BR’s are not race, actual they exist in all kind of races, so you cant say its racism because nobody hates brs for their color, features. Its mostly because of their behave, they have no respect for anymone and refuse to join the international comunity because they dont care about speaking english with other ppl, even if they know they cant speak portuguese they will keep talking to him in portuguese instead of trying to speak english the same thing happens with frenchies that is why they are often marginalized and ignored.
That and the fact that they ruin everyone experience on porpose.
Dude, you’re being silly here.
So if you want ppl to speak the language most used in the world in an international game server, so everyone should speak Mandarin (Chinese), right?
For us Brazilians that’s not a reason to condemn americans or other ppl that speak english as native. right?
I’m Brazilian and I speak english, or at least I try to… as many others from Brazil. So that’s another point you can’t claim that BR in general ruin most of the games.
If someone answer that question plausibly, I’ll give you a hugh:
-Why brazilians should speak english with each other? (considering not everyone speak english).
Mandarin is the most common Language in the world.
English is the accepted International Language.
see the difference?
I kinda agree with the community that the majority of the Brazilian players are a bit hard to deal with, and some can’t (Not won’t, can’t) communicate in English, but are not an issue to the server, its economy or its playerbase. The ones that you see saying “FORA GRINGO” are the morons that permeate each and every game, disregarding nacionality, and can be found speaking the most varied of languages. BRs are not the only trolls.
They are only more prominent because the sense of unity we share is strong, and we can enjoy the game better when we play with someone that can share our language, our jokes, and therefore having less shame speaking our language in general chat and/or globals.
Now, the only real thing a Brazilian player can do to harm your experience, BECAUSE THEY’RE BRAZILIAN is lagging, and that isn’t the user’s fault, it’s our own internet providers + the distance from the host server, making the latency not something to laugh at, we’re talking almost 3 seconds delays (for me, and I have a quite good internet connection), for normal actions, like using skills or autoattacking. More if we’re talking to NPCs. That, alongside the lack of a Latin American server (Yes, we do have it now), make for a sad experience both for us, and for you, the receiving end of the bad connection experience.
Some of us can communicate well, some are good at that, and sometimes you may be talking to a brazilian player and not even realize. I guarantee you came across some, and isn’t aware of it.
TL;DR: Troll BRs are the same as any troll, except they talk in portuguese, and have bad connection that isn’t their fault, so the racism is just an excuse from the playerbase.
You know what? It is pretty annoying when someone just want to play the game and ends up getting involved in some stupid argument between US and BR. God, don’t you guys ever get tired of this?
Bla bla bla brazilians destroys MMOs and are the worst ‘race’ in the world(yeah, ‘race’), bla bla bla Americans are a bunch of hypocrites who loves to point the fingers to the others to keep the ‘perfect nation’ image… Seriously, it’s like talking to a wall and expecting a reasonable answer from it.
Bad apples are not restricted to brazil, guys. And a cheater or troll does not have a nationality. He can be a brazilian, american, russian, chinese…
Instead of trying to divide the community with all this crap, why not put the differences aside and start working together so both game and the forums turns out to be a interesting experience for everyone? Though of course, this is the internet, the place were little kids acts like big shots and compete to see which one can use more insults in less than a minute.
It’s not the bugs that are killing this game, it’s the community who don’t even know how to treat the others! And this is valid not only for the americans but for brazilians as well.
I have several Brazilian friends from my years of online gaming, and they all can profess to the rampant nationalism and xenophobia that Brazilian gamers typically exhibit. Yes, Brazilian gamers. This has nothing to do with us hating BRs as much as it is them intentionally insulating themselves from the outside world through anti-social behavior, griefing, and “us-against-them” tactics. Hell, they get their own server in almost any game they have a population in. If you’ve been meandering the internet for a decade or two, you should never have to ask this question as to why there is a general dislike for (BRs). I’m more than willing to play with people of all nationalities, but if you behave like an asshat most of the time people aren’t going to want to play with you.
errr its never ok to be a racist…
He is not wrong, Orsha and Klaipeda are dead now that Brazillians got out, they ARE a strong community.
However I dont think the ‘‘little kids’’ part is right.
Sorry for the english, for I am not a native speaker.
Americas= BR
Europe=RUS
SEA=pinoys
They are everywhere, they are enclosed in their own circles and they disregard other people who do not speak their languages. On top of that , they are annoying as fk.
You do not see people from the States repulsing anyone who does not share the same language or country with them. It’s just their attitude that gotten a widespread understanding that they are just annoying as fk.
Mingle with a few with them and you will get it.
actually, NA repulses everyone who doesnt speak english. When the servs were mixed with SA, BRs that doesnt speak english were rejected. NA only get involved with people they cant identify as a not-NA
Dude, you were playing with brs and didn’t even notice. Let me tell you a fun thing that happened to me grinding in demon prison (Klaipeda):
We were grinding (and talking a lot in english) and after 2 hours someone asked where they live and we were all brs LoL. It was really funny cuz no one had a Portuguese nick or something (most were anime names in fact).
I couldn’t recognize them and I’m BR! How can you do that man? You played with a lot of them and thought they were Americans. If the person only knows the basics of english, it’s enough to understand the important things when playing on pt! You know they were BRs when they spoke in Portuguese. (Even though sometimes ppl talk in Spanish and some Americans think they are br too).
Generalizations are stupid.
Btw, I like to play with you guys (Americans). But I feel sad when I read somethings here or ingame. Saying that I’m a bad person, a troll, a cheater. D: