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Why is okay to be super racist about BR?

Se você não aprender a pontuar, usar virgulas, etc… Nem com google tradutor eles vão entender o que você escreveu.

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your was very cute too, no argument att all, just beein an ■■■■■■■ :smiley:

Sorry, guys… But I am Brazilian and I hate to play in our community. Since the Facebook group, Brazilians - in majority - want to take their own bite first besides everyone else.

We - some friends, my wife and me - choosed to play at the iToS months ago. We know that our community is extremely toxic. Well, I’m pretty sure that you know that too. But come on, who will accept other countries to say what we all know?!

It’s romantic to make a stand. It’s something beyond the individual. But it is not true. They are absolutely right: this is a international community. Even with my great mistakes, I think I can make myself clear and be a reasonable company at the game. If I come to the iToS, why should I imput then with Portuguese? And, of course, everyone complains about NA, but did any of you have ever tried to speak with a German? An Italian guy? Or maybe a Greece woman? What will be the common language that you both will try to speak? English… Whoa! This is a INTERNATIONAL community… So?

However, this post have a point: IMC and a lot of players did in fact act with segregation and/or racism. And this is not the right way to make a point. BUT if assume that my community is extremely toxic and I make everything - even play with some ping - to avoid them makes me racist, so be it. One thing is act as a douchebag and be aggressive, this is not the point when we talk about the terrible behavior of great part of our base community.

What is the point of coming to the iToS anyway? We could just wait for LevelUpGames to release the game, right? A huge base of BR players came to iToS exactly to avoid the major base that will play in LUG servers. Is not fair to call all brs as cheaters, but it is also absolutely unfair too not assume that our base community is, indeed, disrespectful with others. Unfortunately, is a endemic and almost cultural behavior…

I really don’t mean to bash, but given the fact I can barely understand his point, I think its no wonder he misquoted, unless he can understand well but can’t write that well.

As for the whole rest of the discussion I guess yes, you kinda got it, it is not we are unwilling. If we are going to use the opinion argument though, I guess every post ever is useless if you take that stance.

My whole point is really against the

As for this:

I could be wrong, but does not it makes sense to you ? We identify ourselfs as “br br br” that much you said yourself, and I agree, on the other hand, you probably have had good interactions with br that you never knew were br, bc they never wanted to be known as br, bc of all of the things I have already argued. The result is that every negative interaction is very well identified, whilst most positive interactions are most likely never identified. While it bears no major proof of this point, we have had BRs reporting this precise behavior in this thread.

>CookyTim is br, he is travelling in marrocos in a vacation trip
>CookyTim sees a guy throwing some gargabe on the ground at a landmark
>CookyTim projects br in that guy, even though he never heard such person speaking portuguese, even though he never seen the guy before.
>a BR comes and picks up the trash, CookyTim is impressed with this people culture and good manners.

This might be a silly example, but this is what I mean by projecting br into bad behaving people. I’m not saying other people do, they might, they might not, but I’m pretty sure BRs do. Do I have proof of it ? None other than actually have been raised in that culture, and that this has a name of its own in Brazil, so it can’t just be my perception.

You do have a point here. It very likely generates a lopsided opinions of BRs. Well assimilated BRs are probably underrepresented.


I see what you mean by “projecting”. Although I have to say all discrimination and racism are based off false assumptions on general stereotypes. Which is why they always do not apply to unique individuals of the group.

However, at this point I am not even really sure if BR refers to Brazilian nationality, or a subset of negative online players that that is referred as “BR”. While the initial formation of the meme was rooted in Brazilian players, it may have evolved to represent a completely different group. So the association between negative behavior and BR, might not actually be related to the Brazilian nationality anymore.