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Why dont games live up to their hype?

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#1

I thought this game was going to be my home for a LONG time… it was going to be your wow 2.0… your guild wars 2.0 your diablo 2, 2.0… your ragnarok 2.0.

i thought this game was going to keep me here… the trailer said, look at me… look at what you desire, here i am… it had me hooked… the trailers had me hooked… i just KNEW this was going to be my home…

every day i play less and less. I get discouraged to keep logging in because the difficulty isnt there. the ai isnt there. the mechanics arent there. ■■■■ i hate writing this… ill continue to log in sure… but when im come home from work, finally grab a beer and dinner, i find myself logging into league or as of today overwatch. Ive bookmarked the forums to keep up with whats up… but just like that other guy said, 280 is like lvl 50 … like lvl 100… like lvl 150… the 50k and 80k mobs are still 2-3-4 hits for dps chars… solo play is still the better option… team play is something the chars that didnt build full min/max dps have to do… i made it all the way through all of the lvls without hitting up bee’s and all that ■■■■… im upset that the game is diablo3 esq. I wanted a challenge… force me into the proper tank 3 dps healer setup… ■■■■■■■ force it plz… it keeps me playing… for now i keep loging into other games that provide a challenge.

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#2

I didnt really read what you wrote. But to answer your question.

Marketing departments do a good job for their respective devs/pubs.

I will leave you with an interesting documentary. Dont take

The Century of Self

#3

What level are you brandon?/

and i don’t see how this game is going to be the second version of wow diablo or guildwars this is definitely Ragnarok spiritual successor though, if this game doesn’t hold your interest i am sorry mate, pickup and move on a lot of us like it in its current state - a few bugs and mechanic changes i would like to see, i still get atleast 4 hours+ of enjoyment out of it daily

i would say it lives up to the hype

#4

Hype = created by players’ expectations. Not the game developer.

It’s like everyone rides on the train and then the moment they play it they start bashing it. At least IMC’s game retain what we see in the trailers and not do a 180 to give you something else.

#5

Hype is created by the companies in their marketing department. Players just spread it.

Just look at the synonyms of hype: synonyms:publicity, advertising, promotion, marketing, exposure; Moreself-promotion; informalballyhoo, promo

#6

That’s where you went wrong; a trailer is almost never ever a real representation of the product. You should never hype yourself off of that.

I agree about the Boss difficulty and certain class mechanics. The Bosses need to drop more traps down, and have points where they ignore aggro and specifically aim the person with the lowest HP. Other than that though, I don’t see the problem. Quest Bosses aren’t supposed to be ‘difficult’ because Quest Bosses are meant to be solo’d.

I highly doubt that guy actually hit Lvl 280; he was a troll. Reading a few posts from his activity history through his user profile showed that.

? If you don’t mind me asking, what level/class are you? The only builds I’m aware of that can solo grind efficiently @ R7+ are Linker Wizards and DPS Plague Docs.

If they remove Barrier scrolls from Pardoner and nerf the Barrier skill from Paladin itself, you’ll get that challenge.

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#7

:expressionless: Companies advertise, it’s normal. Hype = players spreading the news and overrating it. That’s hype.

#8

This thread makes me sad. Because I know you are speaking with the truth, and I was so hyped too. What a pity. Let’s wait the better.

#9

im trying my hardest to give it time… hoping the challenge comes.

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#10

A lot of us like it? Speak for yourself.

The game needs a ton of work, not just “a few bugs and mechanics”, and it doesn’t seem to know where it wants to go. IMO the game lost direction after cbt1 and partly through cbt2.

Is this a grinding game? The CEO says it is, and was surprised when it was received as a quest-based game by Japan. Anyone who read that was like “what the hell, do they play their own game.” Is this a daily chores causal game? Social MMO? Solo + party-queue modern MMO?

Also anyone will agree with the OP that the challenge isn’t there in this game. The fact that they came out and said to think of the first 200 levels as a giant tutorial is pretty awful. It’s like saying “ok we had a concept there but we messed up, but instead of fixing it here’s how you should just deal with it.” Are we really supposed to be satisfied with an incredibly non-challenging game that only offers one challenge at max level ( earth tower )?

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#11

This is why I’ve learned not to make any kind of hype for anything, from my past experiences out of all the years I’ve been alive so far.

Except when it’s for lolis. I’m always hyped for lolis. Although I was disappointed one time before.

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#12

Ok guys you need to get a hold of your selves… the game is just a month old… and you want to compare it to ragnarok and wow? ok, lets do that… can you tell me based from the timeline links listed below the difference in each dates for each patch or episode or expansion or what ever you can call them, of the game you mentioned…

Ragnarok Online Timeline

World of Warcraft Timeline
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Timeline_(World_of_Warcraft)

if you don’t like the status of the game right now… go play something else and go back after a year or 2…

:expressionless: nuff said :expressionless:

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#13

Here’s a challenge for you, play a swordman class without peltasta

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#14

Yeah my last Hype was Destiny.
After ~90h and max Light Warlock it was only boring–>quit

I play now MMOs since 2001 and its every time the same.
New Game–>Hype–playing to max level–>boring–>new Char or quit
Good Games like DAoC(RvR) or FFXI(Jobsystem) i played over a Year,
standart Games like EQ2/WoW/Aion 4-12 Months.
Its ok for me.

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#16

The issue with early access games is they are played to DEATH in the first moments of release, its only natural people are going to get burnt out

Personally i still get a lot of enjoyment out of this game even after 400 hours play time, but none of you are even giving it a chance its JUST released have you had a look at the world map? look at all those unopened areas achievements to be had places to explore so much PvP to be had the potential is endless

If you don’t like the progression in the game so far, well its probably always going to be that way go play something else those of us left over will continue to enjoy it

EDIT : Wow i had more hours then i thought

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#17

Or you could just continue playing it and stop posting on the forums that people should stop playing something if they care enough to point out what’s wrong with it.

#18

This is where we have a difference of opinion, there is nothing wrong with this game besides a few minor mechanic changes and some bugs the work you want is just future content, sounds like the OP has burnt himself out and is upset that there isn’t more to hold his interest when the game is just out of the gate giving a negative opinion towards any new or future players who might be reading this

There are plenty of satisfied customers i believe you are a vocal minority who want the game to be something its not
I am here to rectify that

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#19

hype is generated by art style

game sells because it looks good

~the end~

EDIT:

lol

#20

This falls into the bug category, and i tested this its only a visual issue