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Why do people rush to get max level in MMOs?

That soon? A civilized back-and-forth would include a few more proper counter-arguments before calling a witch hunt.

Hint: I’d save the Hitler/■■■■ comparison for later.

lol, that was a counter argument about what you said about casual players. again, no one is blaming anyone or doing a witch hunt. i dont see how you see it that way.

The reason im referring to this as a witch hunt is because there is no hard answer for who is botting/ using RMT. They will come for a variety of play groups.

Once again well use this a a example you try to use this as a counter but then this argument could be made about any member of any play group with surplus income.

TLDR ■■■■ off with this argument its a waste of time and going to go no where, trust me im a expert on this ■■■■. Pointless arguments are my thing but im busy and don’t have time for this one.

PKing would be a great feature… Ah long gone are the days of hunting nooby PKers for their sweet sweet souls… I miss the taste of souls

You prob have aleardy found the perfect target if pk was ever implemented…

you’re not an expert. you’re dense as a thick slab of concrete who plays alot of video games.

listen to what i’m about to say, and REALLY try to understand:

there is a TREND of rushing to END GAME CONTENT that ALLL PLAYERS ( this means both casual and hardcore ) seem to be doing. I believe that this TREND fuels the use of Botting and RMT

no one… is blaming… anyone…

do you understand now?

if you dont aggree thats fine. but the so called witch hunt is all in your head

You realize your raging on a post that was not directed at what you said and yet your trying to defend it as though it was. Even though i didn’t contest it.

Leo is blaming someone you are not.

I think your confused as to who/what that post was directed at. You seem to have taken it way out of context. Yet apperantly im the slab of concrete lol.

no dude. try to remember, i know its been about 30 mins and its hard for you but this is what you said to me:

@LeoLombardi made a counter argument to this qoute. however you had no justification to call it a which hunt since no one was blaming any group of people

yes

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Because they are conditioned to think the game starts at endgame from playing WoW.

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Urg your going to make me do this. Fine have it your way.

PVP and competitive are group types of players. That you discuss right before RMT & botting in the same paragraph. Which associates the ideas.

Im going to use the qoute you chose:

the “MMO Player” = “people who play MMOs” = “Casual Player” + “Hardcore Player”

you made that association on your own. i specifically said MMO player, that includes everyone

you also excluded the “end game content” in “end game content / PVP / Competitiveness”

As stupid as it is, the only reason I rushed to 224 is to get the Dragoon costume, infact after obtaining it, im here famring inforocktor and in no way motivated to level more

You said MMO player then specified competitive and pvp. If you wanted to include everyone would have had to through a etc. or misc. on the end of that.

Competitiveness of the end game. Means competitive players. It can’t mean casual because casual LITERALLY means the opposite.

sigh…

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Casual gamer
The term “casual gamer” is often used for gamers who primarily play casual games, but can also refer to gamers who play less frequently than other gamers

END QOUTE

you can be a competitive casual gamer.

Wat. I look away from this nice thread for an hour, and it’s gone to ■■■■.

Well, I’m gonna go have some cake, because cake is great.

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From what I can tell, this whole mentality stems from WoW and similar games from that era. Wow makes tons of money, businesses like making tons of money, therefore businesses make wow-like games.

Wow-likes operate under the paradigm that the game starts at the endgame. Since they make up the bulk of the MMO market, that mindset has been imparted upon the players, giving them the idea that “This is what makes an MMO”.

If we wanted to break out of this paradigm I feel we’d have to start making games with the idea: “There is no endgame, there is only the game”. From the looks of things, Chronicles of Elyria is going to be the forerunner of this type of game, with its focus on storytelling and player-induced events.

Also my god, @KaiserX and @thebloodyaugust, you two are getting so pedantic.

Thats why i like the forums =p… dunt get me wrong… they both seem to me like nice people compared to the others XD

@Xarale

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no you can’t despite “wiki” whos information is garbage at best lol.

Casual means relaxed or unconcerned which is also associated with infrequent. Which is where wiki gets its broken definition.

Competitive / competition involves exerting your self to be the best/top etc

They conflict. Your one or the other.

Because I gave an option and Kaiser wanted this, so it would be rude of me not to play along.

The same reason I tried to get A’s in high school. To get the ■■■■ done with, then complain that the school system sucks. Then do the same with college. Then the same with my job. Then the same with my life.

Just like how everyone does it when they rush a game then move onto the next one. Then complain that they didn’t get enough of whatever they wanted.

Just moving along with the flow of life, trying not to get left behind and get no money and lolis.


Now that I’ve explained the case, let us all move on to something else now.

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:confused: Where have you been i haven’t seen you around the forums in a while.

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