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What exactly is the point of DEX on a Swordie?

You could have those if you farmed second demon prison for a month of so.

I farmed second DP for 2 weeks, and i was not even close to get a gem lvl 7. Only answer was doing gimmicks on a daily basis. or Monster gems.

Edit: That, if you meant killing the Thief Vubbe for the red crystal.

Are you really comparing a main-tank fencer (main tank meaning you also receive more attention from healers), probably the best tanking class in terms of physical, with shield, high dex, solid amount of HP, spamming flanconnade (!) and buffing itself with Lunge… with 17k HP (wut?), no-shield Corsair3 that’s simply too squishy to survive the cd of heals they’ve thrown at u, while also running around making it even harder to heal him? So he dies, loses the protective buffs, which he needs even more than you, naturally getting more def and block rate with a str-con build. And dies again as those buffs also have cds. It’s a snowball that simply started with his low HP. Just tell the guy to get 150 CON and he’ll be fine. Cuz hey, isn’t it logical to get high CON and fullplate if you are going no DEX? Last time I checked, Hop2-Corsair3 didn’t have anything else apart from that to protect itself…

tl;dr = it’s not about dex

@Bramia
took about 3 months with 4 characters doing random 280 stuff and farming/hunting gear for all of them.


@Proxied
you can all me a noob, but I’ve never actually roasted a gem before…
Plus in this case i thought that if I roasted it before getting it to lvl 10 that it wouldn’t be roasted anymore and I’ed have to do it again…


@NotVau
Its just 3 months of farming other things with 4 max level characters :I
You can literally feed a gem ANYTHING
so just feed it EVRYTHING.

Also the formula for Gem EXP is the gem’s lvl xthe EXP requirement of its previous lvl *(X - 2)
X = the Gem’s current level…

If TOS didn’t use weird as ā– ā– ā– ā–  math for everything, it wouldn’t bee so bad…

No wonder, i never tried feeding with trash mats lol. Makes sense, time to farm Market and buy anything.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…
Those dont give MUCH, The only reason it worked for me was because I was farming other gear for HOURS on 4 different characters and obtained a ton of ā– ā– ā– ā– .

Gems is definitely the fastest they give 15.5k exp (they give 7.5k exp before lvl 6)

Nice Edit. Whatever.

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I just specified what I was farming ._.

Why Thauma 3? For Lv.15 Shrink?

Lvl 15 shrink to reduce their AoE defense ratio, physical/magic damage 75%.
lvl 15 Swell left arm, self explained.

That’s the reason for us, swordies to get a Thaumaturge3. Linker2 it’s helpful but not mandatory.

add str and get crit rate is better, reason? str multiplier is 10% every rank and passing 400 is 2 str per 1 click, it is way easy to pass 400 due to bonus for each rank up to 70% str bonus per 1 click, not to mention r8.

Why dex swordy …
Reason if magic cant be dodge at least let me dodge ( i am rng dodge god ) melee physical attack 90 % of the time …
But fencer is the only one will get benefits of godlike rng dodge …

Pve
Pure str vs tons of melee monster (phy) rekt
Pure dex vs tons of melee monster (phy) dodge
( demom prison 2f 1 sw is pure str and always die)

Pure str vs tons of magic monster
Pure dex vs tons of magic monster
Both rekt

Aki you got double pay earn ? Is it worth it using it to farm matts ?
Is it per hit ? I am corsair hexen is my best dps

We will see coz so far…only Lancers can break magic circles in the Swordie Class.
Hope Murmillos will have interesting skills and good magic def. How I wish. But still, Dopple3 will really be sacrificed for this.
#shieldsrule #tank

pure str don’t really gets rekt by physical. if they have decent money they could buy good leather armor (yes leather since grind mobs such as alemeth and evac has strike damage) and 3 part plate (plate pants should be at your level) set so they have decent defence (get aspersion) 10% damage reduction against physical. if they are questing, they could buy a cloth top so they don’t get rekt against bows. does not really matter now if they can’t dodge if the mobs only deal 2 digit damage right?

tho i don’t really like pure STR since they are kinda…bad? still prefer STR with a good amount of CON.

Flanconnade hardly does anything because the buff lasts (yes, actually) .1 seconds. I’m using that in this boss because it’s cloth so it’s slash weak. The results are the same when I can spam composee.

I’m also not a a main-tank fencer because I have almost no points invested in CON. My HP is coming from plate mastery and awakens and gear stats and gems and swashbuckling bonus. You say I received more attention from healers, but actually out of my entire party I received the least. The other swordsman (and other party members) were provided with constant heal tiles and safety zones because they actually needed it. I hardly got heal tiles and only went and grabbed them a few times when my gear was broken (though they would wind up being ā€œstolenā€ a lot). The only healings I got was mass heal.

Lunge is bad. It has around a 22% uptime. I use it for damage. I’m at the evasion cap without lunge. This means any swordsman with peltasta can reach the evasion cap without lunge.

Also It’s not in the entire video since I cut most of it out, but I used a dagger for the most part. I only switched back to shield when all of my gear was broken, and used a shield in the beginning because I wasn’t sure what to expect from this boss as it was my first time going.

And again, as I said in my post, CON wouldn’t help except to allow you to run out a bit slower/with more success.

It’s all because of dex. This is why Rynn can just stand right behind me and not have to worry about the damage as well. He’s receiving the exact same lines of damage/attacks as I am. Last time I checked, fletchers don’t have anything to protect themselves either. He also has similar HP. And it’s kind of hard to tell someone to simply ā€œGet 150 conā€ when they are 280 and you can’t get stat resets

Though I will agree it’s not the best comparison which is why I gave the mini disclaimer before going in to it, it’s all I had at the time

edit: Oh it seems to be you, yeah I was sincere about my apology in the disclaimer. I mean no harm it was just a coincidence (well maybe not but still just in case it’s actually you or he sees it)

Seems to be me? I’m corsair c3 true, but on Fedimian. My hp is also 28500 xD (plan to get even more con, saved the stat reset)

Sorry I made a dumb msitake lol I just put an edit in right before you posted that

No probs.

Too bad I havent played really long. Don’t remember ever going Helga, cant say for sure if I’ll have same problems as this guy. Remember doing some Rexi and Marnox, but too boring.

Last I checked, the Ktos ET meta for swordie was like a combination of Barb HL and Doppel 2 (no pelt) with 1 party reaching 20F or clearing it. Basically relying on barrier scrolls :x. We still don’t know the skill damages on r8 classes so we’ll have to look into that