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What does it really cost to awaken an item

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#10

Number of calcite required * 3,000. That’s all it costs in terms of money.

When you request an awakening, you can see how much calcite it requires in the awakening UI.

Never seen anything take more than 24 of them, but also haven’t tried awakening 220 purple equips yet.

As far as time is concerned, alchemists can just start the dungeon and leave and the “customer” can stay in there and finish it themselves. I don’t think time is a very good measurement for cost when they can just leave it to you.

As far as alchemist profits, I can’t beileve someone tried to charge you 360k. If you are in klaipeda I can do what I just mentioned above. If you can trade me items such as talt, recipes, etc that total the amount of silver that it requires to enter the dungeon, I can awaken whatever you want for break even price and just start up the dungeon and leave after it’s created.

The skill has a 10 minute cooldown tho (won’t be a problem for orange items, takes at least 18 minutes)

Also awakenings are really only garbage and have terrible RNG on armor/acessories. On weapons more often than not you’ll get something viable. The only bad things you can get on weapons are like…accuracy and maybe phys or magic attack on a weapon that doesn’t use that stat. Chances are you’ll get an element property attack or crit rate and they are pretty much interchangeable in terms of DPS gains.

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#11

On secondary weapons (for most classes) and other items where enhance level doesn’t matter (boots for str builds, gloves for dex builds) I agree it’s worth it, but on primaries you’re burning potential that you could put towards enhancing and socketing and still taking a gamble because you could easily roll garbage numbers or even as you say a stat that isn’t worth anything to you. AFAIK elemental atack rolls are significantly lower than physical/magical attack rolls, so you’re really banking on getting a high phys or magic attack roll.

#12

According to tosmechanics phys and ele have the same potential rolls and im inclined to agree:

The potential just doesn’t matter to me when the cost for upgrades starts costing absurd amounts and the chance to fail becomes increasingly higher. I have a seemingly 95% chance at getting a 20+ roll on an offensive stat or a higher chance to fail multiple times when attempting to enhance further

I wouldn’t really be interested in doing it on something say, didel grand cross which is virtually impossible to replace but for replaceable weapons I don’t see any harm in throwing away 1-2 more potential

It’s pretty hard on armor/accessories though, but I don’t care about resale value and won’t enhance farther to try to get a minimal amount of def or mdef so it doesn’t matter to me in that regard either. Most of my armor has 2 or less potential because of this, but the awakenings help a lot and have proven to be worth it for me so far

#13

Interesting. I have’t seen the numbers on awakenings since it was first changed from being preset (which was IMO a more interesting system, that they implemented horribly), maybe it’s changed.

#14

While I disagree with absurd high pricing, those who charge a decent fee should be inclined to do so. They have to go through the misery of leveling that class and indeed, time is money. However, with that said; I’m coming up with mine and if anyone wants to party with me til 280 I’ll be glad to give ya cheap awakenings. What? No? Okay then.

Edit: For no reason but :stuck_out_tongue:

#15

If interested, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ry-wk544z3NJ0RGjAUKzE_3BADKUzb3Us6JdlB73vAg/edit seems to be pretty accurate

Where attack seems to include phys/magic damage, critical rate (though my crit rate rolls have been lower, but not as low as “Other stat”, so not sure) and elemental property attack.

Primary/secondary weapons can only get attack and “other stat” where “other stat” possibly includes crit rate, accuracy, and maybe evasion? But I haven’t seen evasion on a weapon.

Armor and accessories can’t get attack stats, but can get everything else. Defensive stat tends to mean x element property resistance.

Shields count as armor when it comes to awakenings

#16

Pricing largely depends on the alchemist itself, if you are concerned that you are being charge too much you always have the option of getting another alchemist (shouting/referral) or pm’ing them on this free public discord channel for alchemist https://discord.gg/g3VUu.

To answer your question, It only takes at most 6x4x3k = 72k to awaken an item of 6 stars and legendary status. However, what is not included is the time spent leveling an alch, explaining mechanics for first timers, other Q&A with customer, and the actual item dungeon assistance or none. And finally, the alchemists itself (i.e. an unknown alchemist charge cheaper; whereas a well known one charges higher due to the low probability of scamming, or advises better on what item to awaken due to experience) As for actual time spent the alchemist can pretty much charge how much he/she thinks his time is worth.

Though, please be informed that on high levels 30min = at least 200k worth of grinding (a high lvl item dungeon lasting 25min) and that the cost can increase if silver transaction is carried through market +11% approx.

In summary an awakening is charged anywhere from 100k to 400k depending on the item, alchemist, and other extra services. I’d recommend getting a guild-alch, a friend, or make your own to get a cheaper price.

Hope you find this informative.

PS: please note that the google sheet posted above What does it really cost to awaken an item is obsolete (i.e. stats are incorrect), use only as a guideline if needed.

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#17

Seems more accurate than the tos mechanics formulas unless every public source for awakening information I’ve seen is incorrect then

#18

Oh hey, nice to hear that you are informing yourself after asking me - you could’ve asked me about it, too, tho. I’m completely transparent.
The price for an awakening is Stars*ItemGrade(“Color”: White = 1, Blue = 2, Purple = 3, Orange = 4) in calcite and Calcite costs 3k each.
My price is 10k per calcite on armor and 15k on weapons (less on armor because they get worse rolls). The reason for that is because it costs me time - If you’re too weak to awaken your item, I do all the work for you while you’re safe in the corner. Also, you have safety when imc decides to troll you (by crashing your game or something) because I offer free rerolls in those cases. Additionally to all that, you just don’t have customers 24/7 - it takes time to get customers. Another important fact is that those 360k are the price for paying with silver. You don’t get that service from other alchemists - of course that loses me money, too.
So at the end of the day I only make effectively 200k/hr, which is much less than some grinding chars.
And now keep in mind that the alch discord is collaboratively working on an awakening database with currently 767 entries that clearly shows that the Spreadsheet Proxied linked is absolute bullshit and unreliable. Why this is relevant? Because we offer the data as part of our service. You get it formatted in a nice way.
You might pay a bit more than from retards who offer 1talt/calc awakenings, but at the end of the day you get a really good service in return.

And to those idiots who think awakening isn’t worth it: You pay 360k for +5 to +6 upgrade on maga bow and get lower results than awakenings give on average awakenings. Not good ones. Average ones.
And if you roll bad on an awakening - reroll, my reroll service is 150k if it’s because of a bad awakening result.

So TLDR dont take cheap bastards that tell you you’re on your own as soon as you’ve paid, just take a good service instead. Feel free to contact me ingame again if you’ve changed your mind.

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#19

Man every time one of these ‘alchemist guild’ types shows up they sure come off as total assholes.

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#20

Haha, 360k an awaken service and 150k reroll, is better make an alche.
We can see all stupid things comes from alch mafi…ops…union.
Anyway guy you can find some nice alche and skip all alche penny ripper.

#21

I just had my lydeka awakened yesterday for only 20 talts. that is a level 75 weapon. I got a + 7 crit rate bonus on it. :blush:
The alche just left me inside and he got out. So they really dont need to also be inside the dungeon.

#24

360k isn’t that high…
It’s the cost to upgrade a Maga Bow from +5 to +6.
And instead of anviling, the odd of getting something nice has a 70% fixed rate and you will not lose one upgrade level if you’re in the “bad” 30% rate.

#26

Requesting moderator assistance, clearly inappropriate.

@TOSTeam

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#30

It actually is pretty inaccurate for non attack stats after comparing it to all the awakens I’ve done

Your prices still absurd tho. If paying for it didn’t eat trade counts I would have set up a thread ages ago offering break even item awakenings because it actually requires 0 effort on my end

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#31

I think you missed that we’re talking about Maga Bow awakening price… Nobody talked about Max Peta or the likes. Most of use are charging less for theses.

#32

My n*gger gee_banter charges me 15~17 talt before.

#33

No, it is incorrect for any stat. If you’d be willing to support the database and use it for a while you’d know that. Then again, you’re a troll anyways. Since your roasting bs started, pot prices went up >100s. Good job, hope people notice that you’re cancer for the market.

#34

That’s fine I have no issue with being wrong. Also I’m obviously not the source of potion price increases, but doesn’t that help you guys price gouge anyway? You should be thanking me if you think this is my fault. After all I probably buy around 300 potions a day. I’m basically giving you ez money!

And sorry I won’t ever support anything you guys have to offer!

@lemaitre_dulotus
I think you missed that I was referring to the spreadsheet being inaccurate which has nothing to do with prices at all