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What are your dream changes to your main classes

You actually got your wish

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6 months later than it should’ve been but I’ll take it. And actually we won’t see this until August or September so 8-9 months later than should but I’m glad to see this change rather than nerfing Hard Shield. The skill itself isn’t the problem, weapon swap always was.

@Hillgarm

I’ll update mine too. Not my dream but two changes I’ll request…

  • Lancer
    Remove shield strip ability
  • Retiarius
    Remove shield strip ability

Both of these classes have enough going on without shield strip. If only one of them can have it I vote Retiarius since it doesn’t also have insane damage output.

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Make Wugushi Crit and have a Attrib to by pass antidote.

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Am still munching on your soul if it happens :smirk:

Alchemist is an important part of my Wizard, my very first character and main is a wizard because of Alchemist and I always wanted to be an Alchemist Wizard…

I survived through all the shit and changes and I plan to keep been a Wiz Psycho-Alchemist no matter how nonsensical it is…

It would be the same with sadhu leaving cleric and Nya Kawaii leaving Swordsman…

I already cried a river when shinobi left and destroyed my 2h spear character and now am forced into fucking Lancer + Dragoon UGH!

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Bring Telekinesis back, without bugs and grabbing multiple enemies if they are close. Higher duration for Raise on PvE.

Delete PP and GP since they are trash w/o Omnyoji, make a new skill that is as iconic for PK users as Telekinesis and not half-assed like Heavy Gravity visual/sound wise (before ToS release, when watching the game trailer, i thought Flesh Hoop was a Kino skill, since moving debris around your character seems really PK like for example).

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“CRITICAL POISON HIT”

I like that :smiley:

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I also wish they revert the Double Pay Earn which actually doubles loot and silver instead of Looting Chance. Other Looting Chance skills cost less skill point and gives more.

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dievdierbs

Carve attak can use on statue to cause splinter and hurt close enemy

kabalist

Gevura CD reduzed to 20 second, effekt trigger on player use only

new attribut to enable partimember to use,too; CD +10 second when aktiv

Gevura;Minimum corection gets new effekt:
when use without Gematria/Notarikon, will cause random number between 3 an 9
when use with Gematria/Notarikon, will cause number or 3 (if number <3)

Sadhu

  • Vashita Siddhi: lower cooldown, faster animation, guaranteed stun (or a higher chance)
  • Prana: increased duration
  • Possession: no overheats (yet to come), increased channeling time, increased area around 20% and center it around the player
  • Prakriti - allow to hit flying mobs, an Enhancement attribute, a proper SFR scaling
  • Astral Body Explosion: increased duration of DoT debuff + scaling with level
  • Out of Body: attribute that allows the spirit to use Vashita and Possession (either duplicated, as the ABE attribute, or solely by the spirit). Attack Speed increased with level. True multi hit. Less hard coded buffs (buffs being more naturally applied)

Exorcist

  • Merge Entity with Gregorate
  • Bring back Magnus Exorcismus

Druid

  • Make Transform/Shape Shifting desirable (besides aesthetics)

Peltasta

  • Attribute that allows you to provoke Raid bosses with any aggro skill if you have Peltasta
  • Guardian: increased duration

Fencer

  • While Epee Garde is active, Sub Weapon will be displayed as if its sheathed (shield on the back, dagger on the side)

Matador

  • Ole: overheat removed, increased duration

Corsair

  • Merge Brutality with Jolly Roger
  • Jolly Roger: significantly lower cooldown
  • Pillaging: bring back item drop chance
  • Double Weapon Assault: standard auto attack stance, like Ram Muay and Double Punch

Ardito

  • Wider area for attack skills (like Corsair, who has wider areas for Hexen Dropper and Dust Devil if you compare with the actual animation)
  • Taglio: increased duration
  • Ritirarsi: faster animation

Thaumaturge

  • Remove Quicken
  • Increase area for Swell Body and Shrink Body (less dependant on Linker)

For Thaumaturge I would like to also say to devs to return to the concepts and inspirations, but this can also be said for other classes that I don’t main. Some of the classes were lost in their concept and original inspirations, thus leaving a feeling of being misplaced and being incorrect, distant from their original inspiration.

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Scout are like thieves in RO, so the’re more assassin/mercenary oriented than “intel” oriented, so I still think alchemist doesn’t fit, even when your look at alchemist as a magician changing ways to a more scientific way is correct, alchemist is still the maximum peak of magic, alchemy was the mix of magic and science after all.

Well, yeah. One of the reasons PD are clerics, is because they were doctors, “real life healers” , so having them in the cleric tree doesn’t seem misplaced. That’s the thing after all, Cleric is not just a “religious themed” class tree, clerics are also healers in any sense of the word, same with alchemist, wizards are not only mages, but also magic scholars, so they not only practiced magic, they studied it, so like you said, the same reason applies for Alchemist, they studied magic and science to find the bases of everything, so it’s not bad to think of them as magicians, that’s why enchanter was a good choice for the mage class tree in the beginning, but TOS transformed them into a “magic adepted-close range fighter”, but even then it kinda fitted the thematic. Changing Alchemist or even PD would be a misplace or their “identity”

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The name of the skill even has the word “Exorcismus”, it needs to be an Exorcist skill, it’s what they do … Katadikazo is awful, just give us Magnus, or remove Entity and make it an attribute to Gregorate, and put Magnus to replace it

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Make Ardito heal a real heal (is useless now) or change it to a “remove debuff” skill, scout (and archers) need a way to save againt some OP debuff (Like warlock 20 sec DoTs or smash bullet <_<)

Bring back deleted skills.
Long stride, make the knockdown pull enemies towards impact center
Mordschlag, but bring it back improved and an option to remove kd.

Improve shield throw, maybe an in-place knockdown to the air
Targetting for frenzied slash
Squire rope needs to be more useful, maybe like linker gather but without the extra dmg. Silence bosses for a few seconds

Dragoon bias:
Add vaulting atk/maneuver skills to 2h non-mounted spear users
Targetting for gae bulg
Serpentine, last hit should vault a small area into the sky and temp change them to flying type - sounds pretty much like blandir cadena but to combo with dragon soar. Or just faster animation with 2oh
Change dragon fear to any other debuff that actually works with other classes, we don’t need a selfish debuff that only works for one class. Or make it into a buff, or idk anything!
Dragoon helmet should affect all spear skills, but lesser impact, no timer, same sp increase per usage. The lightweight style will be the default and only style.
Dragon fall, make the charging time actually do something extra

I sorely miss shinobi clone + dragoontooth combo … IMC, stop making us fall in love with combos/skills and then removing them afterwards >:< Make shinobi a dual class (sw and scout) that works with the old skills again.

This same logic can be used to sway away Linker, Thaumaturge and Enchanter, even on the thief level it doesn’t make sense. I know some people love the idea of the spell caster thief and i’m ok with that, but taking it consistently Alchemist has the same thematic cohesion than any of the other three. Knowledge is indeed a major element into wizard’s sphere but the same can be said about Scouts (as assassins/mercenaries) as they need to develop tools to survive and do their job, most players would expect poison to be present in the tree as well (being reasonable for Wugushi to stay in Archer considering theme and how bad the tree was hit in Re:Build). We already have drugs and explosives being used in Scout so it wouldn’t be weird to have a whole class dedicated to it in this same tree. Heck, RO’s Alchemists were merchants and no one complained about it not being a pure magical class, which in this sense Cleric does allow hybrids to exist and also is the one covering healing/medicine as a whole (now being part of Alchemist).

I can’t say much on the practical side of Plague Doctor but it doesn’t seem like the class achieves much in a tree that has a lot of healing and cure tools, the latter element being a great aid for Scout as debuff removal is rare outside cleric.

My whole issue with this side thematic links those classes have is that it doesn’t make much sense for science to be developed for those that have access to magic and divine power, the logical development is for those without these tools to do it (which wouldn’t be the case if they used each other to amplify the outcome, but that is either poorly communicated or doesn’t happen at all).

All that said i don’t think it’s misfitting to have Alchemist on wizard nor Plague Doctor in cleric, but rather that they could fit as well in scout and, perhaps, even achieve more (such as explosives and more irresponsible medical practices), yet for that be consistent both need to be moved together (ideally with Wugushi so it can enable a true pandemic scientist build).

Is better if give Cleric the skill Exorcise [lacks magic dmg skill] and make upgrade attribute into Magnus Exorzismus for Exorcist than deleting other skill…

Make BM’s bloodoverdrive apply basic atks, and scale with atk spd as well.

Swordsman:
Move the new Liberate aggro spell to Peltasta.

Barbarian:
Move Frenzy to Swordsman, at a 10 lvl cap, creating variety in the new Swordsman balance. Forcing pure PvE DPS players to lose out on Bear and Pain barrier.

Cryomancer:
Bring back old Ice Wall Blast.
Increase ice blast target limit from 8 to 10
Remove Frost Pillar’s 12 second freeze, add new mechanic: Skills like Ice Bolt, Ice Pike, Hail… become 100% freeze chance on enemies debuffed by the “gust” effect of frost pillar.

Make heal is real healing skill. It should able to use on others than only party member or yourself.

Linker and Enchanter, name is like you are a magician. Why move to Scout?

Agree… they dumbfied cleric too much…

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