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Wabblet's Lvl 200 feedback/class guide =]

Ignoring the grind, wouldn’t Kneeling Shot be fairly nice for Bossing with the attack speed and range (bugged atm or nerfed for some reason)? It would however be seriously based off of single target damage until Either Rank 5 or 6 I would think.

I’m a bit biased towards Kneeling Shot btw just because it’s different.

yup. its fine tho. still commend you for giving us a guide about your class. i get your point with all your secrets and stuffs. i just dont know why people hates you and asking for proof. or maybe they didn’t saw the screenshot. o well. envy kills.

Kneeling shot is terrible for bosses. You will die for standing still for almost all bosses. They will have some sort of mechanic that spit/throw something with no telegraph.
If you go the build i posted you are what we call a “Glass Cannon”. You literally die to bosses from them sneezing on you. Standing still just makes your chances of dying too high.
I’ve died to some bosses one shot… but thats also because i didnt know they did those moves. Live and learn =P

I can understand you liking Kneeling shot, on paper its amazing. Boosts damage, based on dex, shoot faster, farther range, list goes on and on but its a really bad skill. When you get to 140ish+ you’ll start to notice its not that great anymore. Mobs start to have a huge amount of HP and they do a huge amount of damage

P.S. There are bosses that spawn mobs that links to you and your party member. Last thing you’d want is to still be within the range of your party members taking the linked damage. You want to be out and break the link ASAP!

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Great post dude, thanks for the patience of writing this text wall, it is really useful. Also grats for the lvl 200. I have some questions:
Why did you choose wugushi and whats your opinion on the other archer ranks? Which one is the worst and which is the best in your opinion?
Did you guys got any GM attention or something like that because of the 24/7 leveling?
Are your friends going to post guides too? I’m quite curious about the corsair and the alchemist.
What games did u use to play before tree of savior?

Heh yeah its a wall of text. Its not a wall a text on my word document, i dont know why the forums has a weird format that just breaks like all my paragraphs and spaces lol. Was too lazy to make it any better.

I chose Wugushi because in my personal opinion its the strongest class PvE/PvP after all the changes and also the incoming new changes to Wugushi which isnt even implemented yet.
Best would be Wugushi. Worst would be Quarrel Shooter.

Nope, no GM attention or anything. Where are you GM Apple ;_;

Dont think Corsair (Ensipid) is going to make one but Alchemist might… Might not be a Guide, more like a rant :stuck_out_tongue:

I played quite a lot of games, The most recent would be Wildstar where i played it hardcore in a competitive guild. Dont remember which rank but i was in the guild “World Last”
Theres many more games but im too lazy to list them all =D

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Impressive to accomplish that only in a week or so.
I imagine it isn’t IMC’s interest for players to reach those levels that quickly, and in that thought, I would suggest you do share your secrets with them so they check if that path you took to achieve this proof of awesomeness is working as they planned it to.

Cheers and congrats!

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So… you pretty much nolife’d this week (5 hour sleep during 1 week) and reach lvl 200 and complain about the experience rates being too high?

Man you must not english. Everything you just said is like incorrect in every possible way lol. Like… What?
Clearly said 2-5 hour a day.
Also never complained about experience rates being too high… only complained about exp walls being a huge set back to a lot of the more casual-not so prepared players.

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I have a feeling that this game is not really meant for player who finds no fun in grinding like me.

Hmm it really depends. The word Grinding sounds really bad, but what if i tell you “group grinding with friends”… Everything changes!
It all depends on the player on what they want the game to be. To be honest.

And if you’ve never tried group grinding… you’re missing out! :open_mouth:
Meet some people, get on Voip and grind and chat. Fun fun.
And if you dont like group grind, then solo grind and find the new meta grinds. I’ve seen some people do it. Recently heard someone grinded on the Dina Bee farm map from level 155-168? Forgot the exact numbers but yeah, i personally never imagine anyone would grind there lol… or did i? =D

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“Grind was too easy, please make it harder.
At this rate i can get to max level playing with 1 hand. I got a free hand to do whatever i want. 10/10 would grind again. ¯_(ツ)_/¯”

Yeah, you did say they were too high.

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You didnt understand me then. I meant to say 5 hours of sleep each day for a week, even took timeoff to do a full-time level and reach level 200 in one week. Great accomplishment with a lot of research behind.

In any case, the rate is going to be lower unless IMC changes his mind before the release.

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Also, the fact that you are so secretive about your “leveling” secret makes me think that its an exploit. Considering that you also said things about “think outside the box” and “mob density doesnt count”, maybe you were camping a high level field boss or doing some form of trickery with quests.

Anyways, thank you for the guide.

I’ll tell you guys what he did.

Save all lvl 7&8 exp cards. Grind at demon prison til 168ish. Use exp cards to get to 175. This allows you to bypass a huge grind deadzone.

5 man the 175 dungeon for a while. Do quests. Grind more. Spam cards. Not sure where they leveled later on.

I don’t know why he’s being so secretive, just some guy that wants to feel cool by being #1 and knows if others know where to train he won’t be able to get to the top.

Yeah but theres no complaining going on O.o. Literally its what it is. Just a statement of opinion.
Its like eating burger in mcdonald and you say its good but you still love 5 guy’s burger. Statement of opinion. No complaints… (referring to my official forum post)

P.S. That post was a troll post on Reddit, im surprised you went the mile effort and found it haha. Thats amazing!

I regularly browse reddit there was no extra effort. Stop trying to sound cooler than you are.

And that isn’t an “opinion” An opinion would be “I think the grind is too easy.”

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And how does that change from “The grind is too easy”. Its literally still an opinion. Its my judgement or view of the game.

If i say the game sucks, its an opinion that does not differ from me saying, i think the game sucks. LOL Try harder next time. I give you a F for that attempt. It was fun but im going to bed so ttyl =]

Did I miss something here? How is “I played the game for ~19 hours daily and reached level 200 in a week” going to warrant the lowering of rates? You’re doing an unhealthy amount of game time and I doubt that amount of time spent daily is something IMC wanted. If you played a normal amount, we wouldn’t be seeing this thread, so you’re an outlier I imagine and likely not something to base an opinion on if the rates should be adjusted or not.

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The guy is a narcissist and doesn’t understand that the community will NOT be made up of people that can put 20 hours of game time in every day. The rates are okay as is, could even be a bit higher or just increase mob density imo.

If IMC tries to cater to people that spend 20 hours a day playing then the community would die off because let’s face it, this isn’t Korea, we don’t have the kind of playerbase that would spend so much time grinding. I’m a no lifer myself and can play 20 hours a day but even I know lower rates would kill the community.

The fact that he sees lvl 200 as a basis to lower rates also confuses me considering it’s only the cap for beta and the release will have hundreds of more levels that are harder to grind than this.

His post is just an extreme bias. If the exp rate stays as is I can guarantee the majority of the playerbase will take months to even hit 200. This is shown by a large portion of the playerbase saying grinding is hard at levels 80-120.

Not only that but I doubt most of the community is going to have a full 5 man premade party that is also nolife making the grind extremely easier.

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Thanks for the feedback Wabblet and congratulations for your hard work. Now we know that it takes nearly 210 hours of planned and optimal gameplay to reach level 200 thats not even the half of progression. I think it’s time to start question IMC about this because the majority of playerbase will just run away from this game if the grind to max level with one character takes like 800 or more hours of rushed gameplay.