##Skills Test
##1v1 PVP - Lancer vs Inquisitor
##1v1 PVP - Lancer vs Druid
##5v5 TBL
It’s a recording of a Murmillo player but you can also see the Lancer in action in the background and during spectate mode.
Commence looks nice. Basically renders block useless.
Skill commence/Deployment have 2 hand spear block. I dont know the exact block rate but probably around 10-20%. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdDzD4JVc4E
Im planning to leave unhorsing at lvl 1 but seems like it can be use for damage too.
You are going lancer?
For still a c1 class for pvp, that ain’t too bad. I wonder if c2 skills/attributes are datamined already.
Yes, though im not satisfied with my class. Currently SW3,cata3,Dopple. I want to change my SW3 to SW2 and get pelt, the evasion% and guard from pelt are really nice for dog fighting. I never consider swordsman can go toe to toe against magic but now swordsman have skills for that. High HP + blockpeneration then silence.
Well if you went pelt you probably wouldn’t be going lancer cuz you wouldn’t be able to make use of the guard.
There’s a good chance I might since sw3 cata3 has always been more of a PvP build anyways, but I’m gonna let other players take their picks first and observe. Looks like leveling and finding grind parties is gonna get harder though.
Edit: Sorry, thought you were asking me. XD
Cata3/Lancer can use shield + sword in weapon switch Sage wall + magas sword are good for setup. Basically only use 2handspear if opponents are staggered/knockdown. Bash and guard benefit from sword + shield. Problem of 2hand spear is being defenseless when entering. Shield seems to fix that. Guard against melee but yea, with block penetration buff, block seems not needed anymore.
Lancer skills can’t be used at all if you are not using 2 hand spear AFAIK.
True on that, I wouldn’t try to block against lancer when they got their buff up.
I need to watch the video again cuz I’m not sure whether the block rate debuff is applied on hit or applied regardless hit or miss/block.
After all the ■■■■ of going through a pelhop and a s3 cata. This video almost made me cry.
Video did not even show the auto-knockdown attribute.
I am so fuching sold.
Video looks nice, but Dragoon c2 is still stronger.
Look at the damage of Dethrone in this vid:
Dethrone has much longer range (can hit from outside enemy’s screen) and more damage than Lancer’s Crush + Quintain combined. Plus it’s got 2 overheat.
KTOS battle league swordsmen is all about dragoons now. Dethrone can outrange Lancer’s Unhorsing (or “Spill Attack”) in this video so can kill a lancer before the Lancer even reach the Dragoon.
Going lancer not for the damage, but for the utility.
(got a pelhopC3D1 for backup just in case)
Dragoon for Corsair.
Lancer for Cata.
IMO.
I still really don’t trust these vids entirely.
A few things:
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We don’t know what their attribute levels are.
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We don’t know what upgrade level their weapons are, and what other equips they wear that contributes to their damage.
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The target never showed her stats and equipment, at least in these videos.
Two things for sure:
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Dethrone’s range and hitbox is insanely good.
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Joust’s magic circle wiping power and silencing is definitely the best anti-magic skill the sword tree ever had.
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Dragoon c2 for sw2 -> pelt -> cata 3 -> Drg, pray for strong c3 and strong r10 class
Lancer for sw3 -> cata 3 -> Drg, and pray for strong c2 and c3 lol
imo
What use is lancer utility when Dragoon insta-burst you down with 2 quick dethrones? If he somehow misses he can just fall back and wait a few secs until dethrone is up again and repeat
I think it’s going to be situational, kinda rock-paper-scissors.
1v1, maybe Goon2’s gonna own Lancer and probably a lot of other classes/builds.
In a group PvP scenario though, there are a lot of other factors that come into play like party buffs, etc. You surely can’t burst down someone on Ausrine, and most certainly not with R7F (unless you have Ausrine yourself too).
If both are the case, then Lancers will just have to accept the fact that Goon2 will always be superior in terms of damage and burst, especially in 1v1 PVP and in general PVE. In group PvP though, especially in high-rank matches, teams would probably appreciate it more to have the utility of a Lancer in the party than the burst a squishier non-mounted DPE-powered Dragoon2 provides.
Dragoon 2 weakness in PVP i think is he can only chose one between Accuracy and Block penetration path. You pump tons of STR to get high block penetration but your accuracy will suffer. 1k accuracy for high str is not enough where dodge can go up to 1.5k at 280 what more on 330? Go dex dragoon 2 and your high damage will only get blocked. Lancer can afford to go high dex while sporting high block penetration. Lancer will certainly die if hit by that 2 dethrone though.
aw… they didnt test the blocking from the buff.
i want to know how much block it boost and from what method. (right now, i assume it just buff the block stat and turn it on for 2h spear)
considering the lancer we saw before didnt even have that high con, and lack of shield, he was still blocking decently often against high level mobs. If it buff block stat, it must be some pretty good number.