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Unofficial Rogue Nerf Megathread + Class Discussion

Should Full STR get Plate Armor ?

If it were me, yes. But it’s still possible to hit very high evasion w/o investing on DEX and using Leather Armor. My end-game plan is still to have high evasion through leather armor set and gears/gems that increases evasion.

I feel like you can get pretty substantial evasion with lvl 15 swift step and Leather Armor attribute with a Full Str build, your maximum HP isn’t going to be that high anyway so i don’t see the attribute from Plate armor being very usefull.

Stat Reset at end-game ? Is Rogue good at PVE or PVP or World Boss ?

I am leveling my rogue atm with Archer,Quarrelc2,Scout,Roguec2,maybe roguec3/musketeer.

I understand rogue as a situational focuser in this game. On 5v5 i can choose wich objective we focus first, and appear for the first backstab ( wich i use for the stun) then i can stone shoot/headshot for more stuns while i run for my life, and use deploy pavise to knockback+ oblique shot’s+ caltrops slow’s. By then my wizard should have facerolled the focused enemy and rogue is looking for the next focus.

I dont mind leveling with my build, it’s slow and i don’t do so much dmg, and i also build 60 con, i got 9khp at lvl 151, and pretend not to get 1 hited by wiz with some spr. (don’t want to waste money on resets yet).

I see my rogue as something similar to a tanky full strip/backstab stalker ( buckler+dagger) who can swap to ranged (xbow+dagger/musket) and has tons of cc. Deploy pavise has 10% chance of bleeding, so you can stack it up with backstab’s atribute.

It’s only me that thinks quarrel’s stuns are a NEED?

Any thoughts?

PD Excuse my grammar, i am not english.

It’s really stupid that a Rank 6 skill MUST use a specific weapon set to deal even relevant damage, which is completely inferior when compared to other lower rank skills.

I think the entire class needs a rework. Karacha Set should be removed entirely(won’t happen now, sadly), Backstab and Vendetta should be buffed. The current Barrage/Feint combo might be a bug, but it should stay as an intended mechanic(unless it already is). Rogue is pretty garbage for PvE right now and only “meh” for PvP, unless you’re skilled

Yes, I reserved my stat reset and use it upon hitting Lv280.

If we’re simply talking about Rogue. Rogue is good for buffing up Barrage using Feint. It also makes full STR builds possible due to Sneak Hit. Backstab w/ Karacha has considerable amount of burst damage with quite fast cooldown. Rogue C3 using Burrow can simply faceroll any boss alone.

So if I were to say which one Rogue is good at, it’s PVE and World Boss.

Yeah…and now karacha xbow is nearly impossible to get since wb timers are completely screwd over.

Marionette isn’t spawning at all.

add more salt to the injury…

How about ArcherC3>Scout>RogueC3 ?

If it’s purely PVE, I suggest you remove Scout and get Ranger C1 instead for Feint+Barrage combo. Scout is just utility so you can travel faster and safe and for boss rushing as seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8VQGuc2P1o

Is this build good for PVE(Archer3>Scout>Rogue3) ? Lacks of AOE

I think it’s fine but yes, it lacks AOE. Get at least Ranger C1 for Barrage. Scout is really just utility, you can drop it if you think you can live w/o mobile invisibility.

How about your build ?

Archer > Quarrel Shooter C3 > Rogue C3

Is it good ? For now, no build is the best build for Rogue ?

Best is subjective. Best build for PVP or Best build for PVE?

The reason why I took Quarrel Shooter C3 is because of Running Shot, it’s really powerful single target buff and it keeps me on the move for consistent rear hits so my Sneak Hit would proc criticals for me. My build is pure STR with some CON to prevent getting OHKO’d, means I need to be more mobile to avoid attacks.

Reason for Rogue C3 is because of Burrow and maximized burst for Backstab. Not to mention, my build includes taking Vendetta and it’s a free +75 STR which you won’t get anywhere easily. 90% critical rate on Lv15 Sneak Hit is also a very welcome upgrade as it would almost absolutely get rid of white numbers.

My build is purely PVE.

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Okay, thx you. My build will be Archer3>Scout>Rogue3, ehh is Twin Arrows good ?

I think it’s very good considering it has so many charges with just 7s cooldown. Perfect for upgrading it’s damage attribute unto high levels because of it’s high sustained dps.

Backstab got nerfed or got bugged ? Did you contact with IMC ?

Backstab is not bugged and it has been nerfed