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Unofficial Rogue Nerf Megathread + Class Discussion

Class and Rank Archer
#332

I was actually planning to add this earlier but I thought, even if this was taken into consideration, Twin Arrow is still clearly the winner and the fact that you get Multi-Shot Lv15 and Swift Step: Critical makes it overall the better choice compared to investing more ranks on Ranger.

Giving it a final chance,
Twin Shot technically having 11s average cooldown due to casting animations. (1000%+3200)/11s
= 91%+290 damage per sec.
While Spiral Arrow technically having 38s average cooldown due to casting animations. (1200%+2160)/38s
= 31%+57 damage per sec.

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#333

so archer c2 vs ranger c3，which one is better？crt on swift step looks very good too

#334

Since you’re already Ranger C2, there’s not much really other choice than to go for Ranger C3.

#335

hmmm thanks. btw do u know how arde dagger works on.archer with no fire attack？i see alot of them using it

#336

Arde Dagger’s 153 fire attack adds up to every legit hit you do. For example, for each arrow of Barrage, Arde will add 153 fire damage to each. If the damage was originally 1000, it becomes 1153 each.

#337

wow i thought its not additional dmg…and how about scouts fluflu, i try to cc.the mobs and its useless…they still attack me

Lachrymator and Massive Bleed Questions
#338

You need to go invisible after casting Flu-Flu to see it’s full effect.

#339

……wow kk，i thought its like a hard cc, at least fears

#340

It also saves your whole party against dungeon mages(like the 190 dungeon), they literally just stand inside the smoke.

On your other notes, pretty much the saving grace of my rogue c2 was my Archer c3. It allowed my musketeer to deal burst and consistent DPS. Having feint lvl 10 allows me to have minimal dex but still have 100% crit rate.

My twin shot allows consistent semi-burst/dps during the downtime of my musketeer skills.

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#341

hey dream can you also give some gearing tips? like what should you get before hunting WBs. and from what level you should be getting good gears? if you can point out some good and not hard to get archer gear that would be great!

#342

Cafrisun Set is fine to use until you can switch to Roxona. Rokas Leather Armor can stay, no need to replace. Roxona Leather Pants isn’t worth it either so you can just use white gear for that.

For weapons, Seimos Crossbow + Arde can be a really good start. Khasti Bow is a very cheap 2H-Bow at Lv170 even though it comes with nice stats.

Honestly, it’s best you stop there first and focus on upgrading attributes up to around Lv50-70 before investing on gears again.

#343

You’ll probably want a Khasti bow by level 170, it’s useful even at levels 230 and above. I still use it as my main bow at 235.

A strength pendant will also work great from early to mid-late as it gives you damage and crit damage.

These 2 items are VERY easy to get. Khasti bow/recipe is pretty cheap if you’re having difficulty farming it.

#344

thank you and Dream, helpful!

#345

Rogue is viable for Quarrel c3 ??

#346

Yes, but stop at Rogue C1. Running Shot scales very well with STR build and with Rogue C1’s Sneak Hit, you can choose to invest alot more on STR than DEX.

#347

thanks, what u suggest for rank 6~7 ??

#348

Instead of suggesting at R6 and R7. I suggest going for this pattern, Archer > Quarrel Shooter C3 > Ranger > Rogue > Cannoneer.

Quarrel Shooter obviously lack AOE. Barrage isn’t enough to cover for that so you add Cannoneer for more AOE.

#349

Quarrel C3 looks out of place with that build.Canoneer+Ranger low cooldowns mean you’ll barely make use of running shot…

You should also drop that solo build mentality(like downplaying Broom Trap because u need a wizz for lethargy bonus).Lots of unique things on this game get shafted by that.

Newsflash, every single wizz has lethargy attribute and every single party will have a wizz for high level content.

#350

Thank you, but i will change ranger for scour or falconner, still viable ?? i need rogue 1 only for sneak hit, i’m full str, kneeling shot and swift step atribute would no help … sneak hit help much , even more I want to go pvp
sorry me horrible english HAHAH :joy:

#351

The biggest problem of Quarrel Shooter is it’s too focused on single target DPS. Having Ranger and Cannoneer solves it’s AOE problems and the BETTER due to the low cooldowns since that’s what you would want if faced against beefy mobs especially when running Earth Tower.

You don’t always need to rely on Running Shot and it’s actually dumb to use Running Shot when the zerg rushing starts on Earth Tower.

It has nice synergy but not all skills with synergy means very high burst or DPS. That video shown 2 Boom Traps boosted by 2H-Bow Mastery and Lethargy YET the damage it did is still rather disappointing.

I do not have a solo build mentality as my new build focuses needing the help of a Cryo C3 for my Double Flare and needing the help of a Pyrolinker for lethal bossing DPS using Split Arrow.

If you’re willing to sacrifice Feint+Barrage combo then go ahead. I personally think it’s a huge loss.