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Tree of Savior in Brazil

So… reading is hard huh? Like… stop posting… you stated yourself it isn’t even going to affect you. Just stop.

You’re the one who wants to tell a lot of Brazilian people they can’t play the game, not me.

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No.
I’m the one trying to push to a brazilian server without lug. You are the annoying guy that have nothing to do with the talk and still act like know everything.

No, Simply no. They have it in their head that LUG is a vile company that is known to corrupt games that they touch. They are concerned for a game that they want to enjoy and play to the best of their ability. Please realize that is is their opinion, they are entitled to that. No matter how much you dislike it.

Then don’t play. It’s an international community. You WILL run into people(from all over the world) like this, people a whole lot worse, and guess what, you’ll have to deal with that. Just because you play with them doesn’t mean you have to continue to interact with them. We have honestly warned you multiple times to cease further communications with the other people in this thread.

Now on a personal note. You are the one here being unruly. You are treating people terribly and it’s quite unfair. People are people, they all come in multiple varieties and clumping people together and spitting on them is usually seen as being a bigot. I’d very highly advise you to read your stance and re-evaluate it.

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And how is a Korean business going to get a server located in Brazil? You do know there are various local laws they have to follow right? Do you think they’d use LUG if they were capable of setting up business in Brazil on their own? Do you even understand how business works internationally?

What alternatives are there for IMC to use other than LUG? Did you even think of this? Without LUG, you wouldn’t get your own server with it’s own translation and own method of paying using local currency. And you still want to tell all the people relying on this they can’t have it because you don’t like LUG?

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On a side note, i haven’t seem on a single post from them, a suggestion for other publisher, actually i am very outdated on that aspect, is there even other publisher other than LUG on Brazil?

There’s.
But to be fair none of them is as big as LuG. But there’s others options. Better options.

@Nirimetus
Mu Online and Point Blank.

So instead of complaining about hating LUG, why haven’t you been suggesting these other, better companies instead?

I didn’t got your answer, Mu Online and Point Blank are publishers on Brazil? If someone named the companies like that i do really fear for this country’s future.

Because guess what? IMC can and have the means to search that, it’s not hard. They don’t need a guy in a forum to do a google search of 5 minutes.
Meanwhile i pointing others company would look bad, guess what looks like i’m trying to sell another company?!?, and i still prefer if they tried to bring the game here without a middle man.
Again you don’t seen to undestand the deal. IMC will own the server here. so your “Do you think they’d use LUG if they were capable of setting up business in Brazil on their own” already fell. Sure there will be more paper work to be made so they can sell cash,that’s if you ignore they will still have said paperwork made since they are getting a portion of LuGs cash anyway.

I REALLY think IMC should launch the game here.

@Nirimetus
No, These are the games published. One is a Full publisher, point blank, and another is a “studio” that publish games of others studios too, Mu online

The way you type is indicating that one is called Point Blank and the other is Mu Online, if you just say the name of the companies and not the games they are publishing it would be more clear, but ok i get that there are 2 more publishers beside LUG, despite their size, do they satisfy their customers need?

If they do a good job and the customers are satisfied with the way they do business why not suggest them?
IMC could pretty much check if they can provide the necessary support.

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I am brazilian and I will play in BR server for the latency and no language barrier community. Also, it is a good thing to have your monetization in “Real”. I see a light for MAYBE a cheaper cash, cause 1 dollar by 4 reais is a bit frustrating right now. Anyone who do not want to play like myself can play at Steam servers. All this topic became a cry more and hate.

At our biggest community we have a pool about which server chosen to play and it is near 60% / 40%… so don’t feed the trolls and move on. Just respect people and stop to think your opinion is everyone’s opinion.

I will be playing on Steam even tho i am brazillian, and yeah i really like the idea of the monetization being in real, its a good way to support the developer, i am just hopping that if i buy from LUG i am able to use on steam also, but it may not be like that unfortunately, so i will refrain from buying on Int servers because of the dollar price.

Wth happened here. i clicked to answer nirimetus and it edited this message o.O

As @Garfy stated before, for a foreigner company to establish a branch on other country there is lots of stuff involved, not to count the amount of money put to do so.
If they adopt the way Blizzard or GGG did, we won’t get a local monetization, which means that we will pay in dollar converted to real.

You can come and say, but there will be market since there will be one of the biggest game community to back up, no, there isn’t, since it is an inconsistent process, lets say that in the first month of opening, the BR server receive 10k players, in 6 months, how many will still be playing? How many left and how many new ones came? Based on those IMC would had the data to know if it is worth or not, but you remember that, when they setup their branch here, they wasted lots to do so, so is the incoming now good enough to cover what was used and what is being used to keep the server up?
With a publisher they don’t have to worry about that, they didn’t do a huge investment, they did invest on the server setup (host) and with the publisher they can sell more services since the monetization is local.

And to be honesty, i am relived that, even tho is under LUG, the server is under total control of IMC, why? You saw what happened on KR with Nexon, what i am saying could be a misunderstanding on my part but, for me, the Release on KR was forced by Nexon, the game needed to be more polished before that, well they are doing now but still, for me it is bad business.

I am not saying we should accept one thing and shut up, but if you can’t put up a constructive counter argument and provide alternatives for solutions, it will only die out and you being frustrated because you thought no one is listening to your worries.

I really don’t know what magic you expect to a publisher do when IMC said they are the ones running the servers.

If they are the ones running the brazilian servers, to keep all the talk of “LUG ONLY SELL CASH” true they will need to make a branch on brazil too.
The only thing lacking is for them to sell the cash. Sure the publishers already know how to do our laws shenanigans but if IMC is going to actually keep their word, they NEED to make the branch here. So they coming here alone is already half way done.

Edits and edits to fix english. It’s late my brain is failing.

Well realy foreing boys whars your problem?
When u have really bad experiences with the management of a game and corrupted staff u probably will never want to play anything that o published by them.

Its to nayve to think thar level up will not do any managment over time. Most probably like said she will have a gm to attend the reports and that real bad.

About alternative servers, why IMC dont continue using stream and the latin american host? Its was already using that in the icbt.
For us is the best option.

Just to say again if u think lv up will just sell coins u ar just so naive

You really don’t get how difficult and expensive is to do that, this is not like one going to open a grocery store in the corner of the street.
Just to correct one of your first post also, Steam is by no mean a publisher, they are like a shop window where the publisher put their products to sell, they also have a CDN on BR, which you can confirm on Steam settings in Download Section.

Steam is not the game server host actually, IMC got to host it on Amazon hosting if i am not mistaken and i think the server location is on Canada, there was a thread on the forum with links to test the latency.

Anyway, i think IMC is doing good there but as i said, if you guys don’t like who they are partnering provide other solutions and try to make a petition on a new thread, i think it is the correct action to do and may even work out since you have a huge backing for it.

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I do. Believe me.

Point is: If they are going to, as they said, own a server in brazil they will need to go through most of the path. That’s the point you aren’t getting.
And they will also go through alot of stuff to take part of what lug sell.
The impression i have is that you believe they are just have to site with their arms crossed and lug will do everything for them. They may be do that. But all the big talk about them owning the server, being the ones to contract and control gms, etc will be simply a lie. Because LUG would be the ones doing all that.

See my point here? Sure they will have to go through some shenanigans to sell cash. But they would be already half way there anyway.

Well i will leave as it is, honesty this is tiresome, until someone from staff come with concrete information it is better stay put, at least imo.
But if you want to be really heard by IMC, do that i suggested before, open a new thread as a petition and show what you have for backing you up on your request.
Coming here on this thread raging and flaming wont solve a thing.