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Tree of Savior in Brazil

You are getting your own server, ran by IMC. What more do you want exactly?

No one is forcing LUG on you. You guys are putting 2+2 together, and getting 5. I live in England, and LUG will effect me as much as they effect you. They wont.

umm woundnt you people come into speculation that they maybe

#LUG-BR* staff posing as regular forumers

to give positive light for LUG BrToS server for people to fall for the same trap?

*LUG-BR because there is also LUG PH

Ok, for everyone who thinks LUG is bad. Tell me what bad stuff they will to do ToS. Make a list of all the bad stuff they will do and post it here.

And posting stuff they did 10 years ago in another game is not what they are going to do to ToS. I only want to know what will happen to ToS and nothing else.

I’m still waiting your argument pro lug. Because you clearly still stupid enough to understand that: Yes for me, for some of my friends who know about this game for over a year. Sure it wouldn’t have a DIRECT effect. I will play in the steam and it’s all good.

Now what you aren’t getting is: ALOT of players will not touch the game. Some because they simply touch nothing that LuG touchs, even knowing they will have no power over the servers.

But the big majority will only/first get to know this game as “one of the LUG’s games” and will simply pass. Simple as that.

“but these ppl are stupid because …” no they aren’t. They never heard of the game. They don’t care about the game. They have no reason to give Lug a second/third/fourth chance because they have no idea what the game is about.

So while it have no direct impact on me. It does have a indirect, because, like i’ve said, smaller player base means less money to improve and keep the game alive. In a more direct note to me it means that alot of friends, rivals, and known ppl from RO times will pass the game. And probably smaller player base in the Brazilian servers/community.

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How you can know? LUG will host BR servers, did you ever played in LUG’s laggy server? I did and I know what I say. I know LUG since 2007 and nothing changed since there. If I want to play with good latency and in portuguese then I’m forced to play on LUG’s laggy servers with LUG’s bad translations.

There are posts in this very thread by IMC stating that IMC will be hosting the BR server, not LUG. Do you even bother to read stuff before you come here posting pointless things like this? You don’t need to answer that, obviously you didn’t.

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I will tell you this and i know how the players here on Brazil do stuff, specially if it is to get on end game or to just progress fast.

The way they choose is sharing account with others, i used to play a game called Conquer Online, 70% of the people i played with was BR’s, and every single freaking month someone was hacked because of account sharing, even tho i always said, stop with this crap because you will have problems and no one will give a damn later.

And i see that you as much as some others can’t stop a single minute to read the whole information on this thread clearly, where are you seeing that LUG will be hosting the game?

Have you ever played Diablo 3 or Path of Exile on SP Servers during rush hours? It is almost unplayable due to connections instability, and it is not the game company’s fault.

Do some more small search about CS for ToS, IMC is trying its hardest to avoid P2W polices, there is 2 or 3 big threads on this forum about it.

Yeah i get where you come from, but 60-70% of us do apply to that category due being ignorant.

I wouldn’t doubt that, but for now, lets give them some credit, i know LUG reputation and i saw how they do business, but since they barely had any part except the ones already explained on the game management, i don’t see any extreme damage to it.

I get what you guys are at, i am by no mean defending LUG or any other company, i know how a company can be greed and just ignore the user, but you have to understand also that, when you have the info explained to you, unless someone from the dev staff come here and say otherwise, which i doubt is the case since Ines didn’t interfered yet waiting for more detailed info from IMC itself, i don’t see the reason to make this a flame war.

About the translations i don’t know and honestly i don’t give a penny, but on the link bellow i don’t see anywhere they saying that they will host the game.

I think the one who don’t understand portuguese here is you, and as i stated on some of my previous post, i am brazillian, but i am not stupid to not pay attention to what is written on the thread like some are demonstrating here.
Keep trying harder kid, i know you can do it.

I think they want to be GM.

Yeah, i think in their heads there is no difference when LUG is only be a portal to a game and when LUG host a game and have complete control over content on it.

Now what pisses me off the most is, while we are waiting for more information, this thread already became a trash bin with lots of useless crying about something that probably won’t happen.
But what can i say, it is a brazillian thing.

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If you really want to disconsider all i said. Because you apparently don’t know how to read and yet call others of stupid and ignorant.

Google Smite Levelupgames Hack.
Have fun.

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You are doing it again.

How does what happened in another game effect ToS on a server being hosted and run my IMC?

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I think people should trust IMC more to know what they are doing. It’s clearly obvious that they don’t have enough time to work on translating BR server on top of everything else they are doing, they need a partner or a BR server could possibly take a long time to be released.
IMC will manage the game and as LUG is just a portal they are mostly just assisting IMC in this matter so I think IMC will be very aware of the state of BR version when it will be released. If it doesn’t work well with LUG I’m sure they would terminate the contract and try finding a new partner or bring a BR server later on steam.
Have faith in IMC they are in control of everything there.
(The contract with LUG could be the only one they were able to make or maybe it was the best one for them, who knows. Pretty sure they would choose something else if there were better options.)

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… For real? “HOW YOU DON’T SAY WHAT HAPPENED TO A GAME THAT ISN’T EVEN OUT YET ?!?”

Of courses i can’t point a case of a game that isn’t released yet.

But like i said. Lug lost the rights to be a portal for dofus because of “suspicious” stuff happening. It happened in. 2011?
So you are going to ask in the last 4 years now?

Every entity has a record. Looking at the past is how you can anticipate things in the future. Some Brazilian people in the community are simple unhappy with the name touching the product EVEN IF that is a vocal minority. They are unhappy because of past experiences, warranted or not. You’re simply not going to be able to patch up their relationship with LUG.

If I was actually savvy with these forums I’d quote what @Gunnr already stated. Don’t bother. They have an opinion that can’t be uprooted. The more you fight that, the more you open up the conversation to unneeded hostility which is never useful nor needed in any successful conversation. And as @Nirimetus just said, that’s already what the thread has devolved into.

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These people seem to have it in their head that LUG has some special control or power over ToS. Like they’re hosting a server, and will all be GMs and make their own cash shop items and add OP stuff and whatever else. And they they go and mention a bunch of old games that have no connection to ToS like it’s relevant in any kind of way.

I completely understand all the hate Brazilians get now, and if these are the kinds of people I will have to play with on the international servers, I might just not play. I fully support these people getting their own server and being region locked to it.

I honestly don’t want to be locked with them please don’t say those scary things :cry:

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So you just ignore/dodge what i said?
That’s interesting how you don’t bring a single argument. Ignore everything other ppl say. You, like yourself said, don’t win/lose anything if Lug gets the right over here and yet want to be the “right guy”

Ignorance is a true blessing.

@Nirimetus
I’m curious why you are defending LUG. They ever made something good for you? Because they have a horrible reputation because made piss poor job to everyone that complain. Yet you try to actively defend them. I’m curious why.

You’re the one who had been dodging everything that everyone has said. You still seem to think LUG has the rights to the game in Brazil (they do not). Just how ignorant can one person be?

Your only complaint has been “LUG did bad stuff in another game”. You have yet to tell me how this correlates to ToS.

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… Are you for real?
I’m saying, sure they don’t have the right. Yet the “cover guy” for the game WILL be Lug what WILL make them sell less.
And they lost the right to be a portal to dofus, AND YES THEY ONLY SOLD CASH, TRANSLATED AND HOSTED THE CLIENT, because they had some shaddy stuff going on.

Like i said. You are ignorant. because you apparently don’t realize i just said 4 times they had the same deal they are trying to make with ToS with ankama, creators of dofus.
And stupid because you act like you know EVERYTHING.
Stop posting. seriously.

PS: And before someone come to point, Later on, after around one year they pushed a block for Ankama that didn’t allow brazilian players to pay cash in international servers.

PS2: are you really saying “it have nothing to do with ToS” when you know it’s not possible to exist anything relating LuG and ToS because the game isn’t even out yet?

I honesty don’t want to waste anymore of my time trying to explain something so simple here, i am not defending anyone, i am just pointing out the fact that you and others are blind by rage against LUG and fail to see that they can’t do a thing to ToS in any aspect.
You guys complain about the game being laggy? Lets suppose that IMC decide to cancel the partnership with LUG but keep the BR server on BR land, do you think you won’t get a laggy server on rush hours? Have you tried PoE on São Paulo Realm? I get stuttering or freeze even tho it says i am with 12ms of latency, random disconnections and login problems, on Texas Realm i only get high latency, around 150ms, but stable connection and barely have login problems.
As you guys are doing, i am using other game as an example.
You guys come here talking about corruption on LUG, i don’t know how they do their stuff, and the few tries i did on their games was enough to see that not so much the servers but more like the community itself was a problem to some extend, game wise imo their selection are poor, probably because the games are not for my taste and due to i already had played the same games on global servers to know how boring they are.

You people come here crying and raging all over the place, on a thread that is announcement, make a huge mess instead of create a new one as a petition and keep all this rage and discontent in there so IMC can sort out everything and really thing if it is viable or no the partnership, now, while some of us are seriously here waiting for some confirmations, me myself want to know if i buy Pin Tokens from LUG i will be able to use on Steam version, if yes, i will buy, if no, i will let it be, why? Because i do play on the Steam version with some foreigner friends.

You guys come full force here complain about all this, and again i will use the same strategy you guys used and compare to the real life, but don’t have the courage to show the same thing during elections, electing the same old crap over and over, get screwed over and over with corruption, weak govern and whatever else they throw at us.

I will stop here, honestly i am wasting my time trying to have a decent argument with you people, you call others ignorant, but you yourselves don’t make a small effort to read the whole thing and understand where the dots and commas are.

Now i really suggest you, if you guys want to be taken serious, to open a new thread about this, conversely call who you think will take this matter serious, and before all, try again and read all that was posted here, including what the staff said, and not only focus on LUG letters and activate the rage mode.

Well that is it from me, i will only answer and ask the staff and who i know at least pay attention to stuff.

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So your entire argument is, some people hate LUG, but are too lazy, ignorant or just plain dumb to do any research and wont play ToS because of this?

So what do you want IMC to do? Not publish the game in Brazil, so you guys don’t get a translation, don’t get your own server and have to pay international prices for cash shop (we pay more than twice what you do for video games just so you know, can you even afford that sort of money?).

What happens when a BR player finds a bug, then tries to report it? IMC are Korea, they don’t speak Portuguese. Are you going to complain about bad support because they cannot speak your language when you’re playing on a server that’s official language is English?
What happens when Brazilian players who don’t speak English want to play but the game is only translated in English? Are you going to tell them to go away because you don’t like LUG?
When the cash shop is too expensive for you to use, are you going to complain about it being too expensive even though it’s the price we all pay?
When you play and get lag, are you going to complain about it even though you were given the option of your own server in Brazil but demanded IMC don’t do it?
When your ping is too high and you start losing in things like PVP or dying to bosses, are you going to complain when you again could have had your own server but didn’t want it?

You want all of this just because you and a few other people hate LUG?

Not only are you ignorant, but you are selfish. You want to try and ruin the only chance some people might have to enjoy the game just because you hate LUG.

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You didn’t read my posts.
I posted multiple times yes i know Lug have no power in ToS yet they will one be first thing that most of players notice.

You stated how the community is bad, guess what? it’s bad because the players who play their games are the ones who don’t care about shaddy stuff.

And you said i didn’t read the topic. Well a simple task for you. Quote ONCE that i stated that lug will have power in the ToS.
I mean if you did read it, you will quote me.

You already made your questions, so STOP trying to defend LUG.