I won’t put words in his mouth, but I think you misunderstood.
My post not his.
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I don’t think anyone disagrees that other classes need help…
I am not saying to unilaterally nerf PD and BAM the game is balanced, it is just one huge piece of the puzzle.
So many different classes would be able to perform if PD was toned down, it is a huge slap in the face to all forms of Crowd Control.
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I’m not saying no one was disagreeing about other classes needing a buff, It’s just one of the big things people are saying is that PD is going to get the nerf first just because its the class people complain about the most.
I’m saying, and complaining, about other classes, so that PD isn’t the only class getting nerfed/buffed.
Like Cata’s trot, and musketeers snipe.
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I don’t know enough about snipe to comment, but I see no reason to nerf cata trot when it is their only means of effective approach.
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I’m sorry no thats not fair either, If PD were to 1v1 Stone skin is its only means to be relevant in a fight against it. Safety zone has a 28sec downtime so no that doesn’t count.
Just because its a support doesn’t mean PD’s solo ability can’t be taken into consideration.
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When balancing an MMO you have to be able to look past 1v1 for the most part. There will be a rock to your scissors.
If you balance around 1v1 then mass PVP will be a joke. You have to take the whole into consideration.
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If thats the excuse then make trot have a 10second downtime. Thats a balance right there, then we can adjust stone skin and bloodletting to only be 5second downtime on self buffing not parties where it can be like 10seconds.
I’m just guessing here, I myself don’t much like any kind of downtime on a healing class but maybe for something in parties it can be a little higher in seconds that’s acceptable.
Latest Top 50 Updated Rankings (as of 26th Mar 2016)
Cleric = 28/50
Wiz = 16/50
Archer = 3/50
Swordsman = 3/50
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Is that 5v5 or 2v2?
Ofc PD’s are high in 5v5 they’re a heavy support class.
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Something tells me that PDs and Kabbalists will/should be getting a nerf?
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PD will definitely get a nerf, because permanent CC immunity is a bit too much for 1 class. They might change it so it will be for limited number of status effects, or just lower the ruration, but nerf is truly needed.
Other classes that may become OP (like catafract) if PD is nerfed will be balanced later. And it will continue till every class will be viable to play in PvP, an top tier classes won’t outscale alternatives too much. With rank8 introduced number of swordsmen and archers in top 50 might (and should) grow up.
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Well, from all the people who like anime I met until today, only something between 3% and 6% know about him; maybe because he is not so popular in my country. 
@Volkwin This archer is very pro in one-shotting people. 
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nuuuu safety zone no nerf, or sadhus will all die!
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Don’t worry, if any nerfs happen to basic skills it’ll happen to everyone else too. People want it to only happen to PD, thats not going to happen. 
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dont wanna be guessing too much but prob the #3 oracle
forecast attribute + counterspell (prob the most broken skill in pvp even more op than bloodletting) + prophecy + the melees fav stone skin + quick res + revive in danger + mass heal + an out for death sentence (would like to know the exact %age on that one) i would even go that far to make it a 7th circle kappalist instead of a 2nd oracle (oh you cast meteor? yes please!) sure incineration is a broken skill too but i somehow got to love the kappalist “suprise motherfucker” option
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What are the wizards running for builds? anyone knows a full pvp build thats works at the moment?
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I don’t think you’re qualified to make an assuption like that.
/snicker
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your not qualified to say i’m not qualified to make an assumption like that.
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ya safety zone doesn require a nerf - it got counter thats what counts- hard to counter a PD tho…too many counter - blood letting for one guy only and no self cast = okay - no link synergy either…pd would have to invest into their mask skill (wich they usually dont by having blood letting)
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