Again, I’m not gonna really judge your opinions on how it should be nerfed, because I dont find randoms all that qualified, but I accept a nerf given other classes get the same in some “balance” patch.
Why are you even on these forums? You obviously don’t want to discuss anything as you will just disregard any discussion we put forth.
Funny this only started happening when we started touching on your class of choice.
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It’s not about me discussing it either, I haven’t said I’m qualified at all. I disregard it because I don’t want a nerf, so i’m not looking to talk about it. Thats just my opinion, just like you hate how I don’t want to discuss, I’m over here saying i’m allowed to not want to.
Sorry syn your not a pyshic either, you have no idea what I might do either, thats a fact.
Why are there so many Kabbalists though, seriously? Does anybody know?
I miss this. 
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probably because of sevenfold - imagine a meteor being cast - you see the wiz casting it…you turn on sevenfold…the meteor is crashing slowly down on you…your comrades already in tears cause their beloved cleric is seeing valhalla soon…but nope sevenfold boyz “imply suprise motherfucker here” bye bye wiz nice knowing you - most situational skill ever but also most impactful skill in the entire game i mean…1 skill to 1 shot others sounds pretty sweet…needs alot of skill and knowing your enemy to make it a good one tho…i guess? looks like its a 1 time only thing aka reflecting just once
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So basically it might as well be called a Kappalist. (I’ll see myself out.)
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well i already imagine tree of savior WTF moments (those who play MMOBA might know them) and exactly this situation - and giving the kappalist sunglasses and stuff after the wiz died by himself
WHO KNOWS MAYBE AFTER THREE MONTHS WE GONNA SEE FIRST KAPPALIST TOO STRONK TOPICS POPPIN XD
That doesn’t make sense though.
If you ‘disregard’ something just because you disagree with it, debate wouldn’t be possible at all.
People disagree with me all the time, but I’m willing to listen to the other side and work towards a reasonable solution, and when my reasoning is weak or disproven, I’m ready to support the reasoning of the other side as well. I would expect the same for most people who are sensible and logical.
And of course it’s your right not to participate in the debate at all. But if that is your wish, then why do you even post in the thread if you’re not going to debate about it???
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1st one was Deives Veliava Instrumental and the 2nd one was Feel Free. Just check in the bgm folder
My whole argument is that if PD gets nerfed, other classes should be nerfed/buffed like (wugushi/monk/paladin in pvp). So that PD won’t die as quickly with its nerfed abilities.(Plus I don’t have enough info about every class to really make a decent argument.)
No I don’t agree with nerfing PD. Regardless of people’s complaints its not something that needs to happen. There are still methods of damaging PDs. We can’t focus on PDs just because it suits someone’s favorite class. No, the argument can’t skip over mountable charas movement speed or musketeers 1shotting. No, committing con to survive musketeer is not a valid reason either, your committing stats just to survive one class? thats not ok, and no melee is not a reason to make swordsman stronger than other classes, because monk and paladin got ignored just as much.
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No I don’t agree with nerfing PD. Regardless of people’s complaints its not something that needs to happen.
Yes it is. Look at the OP and count how many PD’s there are. There’s an overrepresentation of PD’s in the PvP rankings, meaning there is significant imbalance that allows PD to dominate in the PvP arena. How do we fix this imbalance that is favored towards PD’s? Nerf them.
We can’t focus on PDs just because it suits someone’s favorite class.
Nobody is focusing on PD because it’s someone’s favorite class. We are focusing on PD because it is blatantly overpowered, and not even you can deny that.
No, the argument can’t skip over mountable charas movement speed or musketeers 1shotting. No, committing con to survive musketeer is not a valid reason either, your committing stats just to survive one class?
As I said before, Swordsmen need the movement speed of Cataphract so they can close the gap between them and ranged classes. Without Cataphract they do not stand a chance - hence why the 3 Dragoons, the ONLY Swordsmen on the rankings, most likely have Cataphract in their build. This is about BALANCE, so of course Swordsmen need that advantage so they can actually do something. Why would Musketeers need their one trick pony skill (that is blocked by Stone Skin or Safety Zone half the time) to be nerfed when there are NO MUSKETEERS IN THE RANKINGS, nor any archers at all.
Committing points to CON is NOT just to survive Musketeer’s Snipe, it’s to survive just about everything since almost all damage classes do a ridiculous amount of damage. If you aren’t building any CON, and plan to PvP, then you are in for a bad time because you will die quick.
melee is not a reason to make swordsman stronger than other classes, because monk and paladin got ignored just as much.
Monk and Paladin do need to be buffed. Swordsmen need to be buffed too. Once again, balance.
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I like everything you said until this. You really can’t prove that this is true. Yes, Cata3 is pretty standard, but there are pvp vids of dopple/dragoons.
There we go, I’m glad you say balance instead of nerf PDs. I’m ok with that.
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Yeah, I can’t, which is why I said most likely. If they don’t have Cataphract then I’d be surprised and impressed.
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Actually he said to nerf PD as part of balance. I play cleric exclusively and even I agree that PD is in need of adjustment.
Stone Skin and Bloodletting need a cap on the number of times they can activate.
OR
There needs to be a class or classes that can remove buffs.
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Again, thats not a problem if other classes get a balance with it. Your missing the point of my post.