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To People Who Are Complaining About Gem Abrasive From Event

General Discussion
#1

Ok, I have heard many opinions about this event. Some ppl are happy, some are angry. Well here I just talk about the gem abrassive:

Since we have rank 8, many of you have been complaining about its difficulty: high HP mobs, high mdef mobs, 1 damage, blabla… so IMC has buff the gem effect to help us.
Now pls have a look at gem exp base

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According to what @Nekorin said here, with 4 hours full time playing he can get get around 2 level 7 gems ~ 440k gem exp. To make a gem to lv8 you need 1.1m exp so with 10 hours full time playing you can get 1 gem level 8 if lucky. Yes, 10 hour playing game without stopping. Feel OP? oh I heard ppl said that game will be full of gem level 10 so let’s make the other calculation. To make a level 10 gem you need 9m735k exp gem. So suppose you are a hard core player that can “abuse” event for 10 hours per day, you will need 10 days to make 1 level 10 gem. And this event lasts for about 20 days so you can get 2 lv10 gem as maximum.

I’m pretty sure you guys all want to make at least 2 gems for armor, 2 gems for pant, 2 gems for gloves and 2 gems for boots. Suppose you are using orange type weapon so you need 3 more gems. All you need are 11 gems. Suppose all gems are lv8, the totall gem exp you can earn buy abusing event for 20 days is enough to make those 11 lv8 gem (and 1 more level 10 if lucky).

Problem is how many people can manage to play 10 hours nonstop per day for 20 days of event to get 2 level 10 gems? For normal players, they will end up with around 10-15 level 8 gems (or even fewer). Not mention some people will stop joining this “public abusing event” if they get enough level 8 gems they want. Also due to gem efficiency, I think many players will choose to make some level 8 gems instead of trying to make 1 level 10. Everyone is just hyped because this is the first day of event. Not sure how it will be next week. So please stop dreaming about a market with full of lv10 gem. :slight_smile: (But it may be full of level 8 - RIP gem sellers LOL)

Some people also talk about breaking game content/balance or something…Well, imo gem’s biggest function here is to to help players have more HP/mdef and not get 1 hit KO by mobs. This won’t affect much or break anything in PvE aspect.(it may make some differences in PvP and GvG)
In damage aspect, you should worry about gacha 2.0 with bless shard drop and 550% damage (stage 10) weapon compare to few more matk/max atk from gems. In the end, gem is not so OP compare to other things as you think even it is level 10.

The biggest thing here is this event is free and available to everyone. Not like gacha cubes, you still can get what you want without paying a dollar so just enjoy it and have fun with other players. I’m not sure if you can have other chance to enjoy event with massive gathering atmosphere like this again. :slight_smile:

IMC has patched this event. Now only 1 player can interact with the plant. If someone is spamming spacebar or just hold the notice board on a plant, other players can’t interact/see the noticebar (or spam spacebar) on the that plant - even the owner!

edit 1: update stats due to previous wrong calculation

note: The final result (11 gem level 8 + 1 gem level 10) or (2 gems level 10) can be archived if only you can manage to play 10 hours nonstop per day.

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Someone post the pic of the new gem exp/values
IMC, when the ban expires....?
#2

The more people plant their seeds, the faster the gem exp collection per hour becomes.
However you also need to account in channel crashes and other memes that completely wipe out gem crops.
A statisticians worst nightmare to calculate how much time you actually need to make a X LVL gem

#3

Easily exploitable event mechanics should not be what balances out end game content.

¯|(ツ)/¯

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#4

I was “abusing” event with rin during those 4 hours. channel is full of people (over 100 people per channel) and I think it is the maximum planting speed already

#5

lol what? making one lv8 gem is hard enough outside of this event. And people already made two lv8 gems within 4 hours.

Think about how much progress on gems people can get from the rest of the event? Especially the ones that can afford to play 8+ hours a day. That’s gonna put the rest of the people behind in efforts that are in the magnitude of months.

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#6

Maybe, but have you also considered that people can make dedicated farming communities with alts and alt accounts to rotate farming patters on lesser populated channels. With much effort you can definitely increase production by higher magnitudes.
The question is if it’s actually worth it
But as Latte0 mentioned being able to make lvl 8 gems in such shorts amount of times when it took weeks before, completely devalues prior made gems by a fuckton

#7

Yes, making gems to level 8 with such high speed is a big thing but I think you guys should worry about the level 10 transcendence with 2nd generation of gacha cube more :slight_smile: gems biggest function atm imo is giving more HP and mdef which helps you survive. About damage aspect, it won’t affect too much. This event looks like just help you don’t get 1 hit KO from mobs, not 1 hit kill mob like transcendence LOL

#10

and the people who enjoy this event are people who are mostly lazy or do not have time to farm for materials and silver to upgrade their characters.

#11

This only democratizes the access to gem abrasives as a resource, and while the dedicated gem sellers are losing their assets, this is overall healthy for the economy and everyone else, especially noobs who cannot easily access lvl6 gems.

Plus, the Invisible Hand of the Free Market always fixes things to their natural levels, after the wave has subsided. Everything is fine. Bug or not, the Economy is working as intended. Kinda your fault for putting all your eggs in one basket tbh.

Also: Viva la Viva Commune De ferme Locataire!

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#12

Just because IMC puts out unreasonable enemies/content doesn’t mean it is a-okay to abuse/exploit unintended bugs/glitches.

#13

if IMC regard this as a severe bug/exloit, they will fix it few hours ago but untill now they haven’t done anything. My friend sent them a ticket to ask if they will roll back the server status to “fix this bug” and they said that they wouldn’t reroll. Well… so I guess you can’t call this as “bug” or “exploit”.

#14

I think you can’t call them as “lazy people” since they have to spend 8 hours playing game nonstop to get those gem exp. I also wonder if you want high level gems why dont you spend 8 hours to do the same thing? or you are lazy also? :slight_smile:

#15

But then again, you can’t exactly call DP2 afk’rs “hard workers” either.

#16

you really gonna be salty if you purchase stuff specially ‘GEMS’, SHARDS and ‘SILVERS’ via RMT.

/shotsfired

#17

I really can’t understand how you can compare DP2 afk sorc farmer to event participants LOL

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#18

Gacha 1.0 = November 8, 2016
Silver anvil hotfix = November 10, 2016

Fixes aren’t instant, it takes time.
Also deciding on a proper course of action also takes time, deciding on a rollback would be disastrous for it will also affect those who didn’t participate in this ▢▢▢▢fest.

Is it that hard to practice self restraint?

#19

Its quasi-botting: Aka automatized process of farming.

Comparable? Maybe not. But what effort are you exerting in standing in DP2 and just collecting gems and silver?

#20

I guess you didn’t get what I say: They have no plan to reroll or “fix” this event!

#21

you think you can afk in this event and have a cup of coffee while gem abrasives automatically come into your pocket? LOL
Welcome to “switch to channel with over 100 people or you won’t have anything”

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#22

Lazy?

Yea pretty sure im lazy.