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Time to nerf quickcast and Magic arrow

they should, but all the meta build players will rage on this topic

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K how about we nerf Haste and Pass too? That way Chronos become useless for ET/WB and everyone will be happy.

Oh, and while we’re at it, nerf Swashbuckling so no swordsman will ever have to go Pelt again. Nobody can grind and we’ll all be happy.

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At least we can see all those elitists and count them. I mean I run a meta build on one of my characters. But I hate it. It is to Boring…

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Insted of nerfing skill that got something different than it does damage (Quick cast attribute / spell itself)
Up thing that really need it…
Like all swordman skills. (Oh wait it already the case in KToS and this should happen here in around a month)

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“Why? because these skills are killing the game, since if you dont have wiz3 you are out of Earthtower,bosses,grind,etc.”

If they remove/nerf Quickcast, ALL DPS wizards, whether they’re wiz3 or not, will be “out of Earthtower,bosses,grind, etc.”

Well, besides C2 sorcs using Morph shenanigans, I suppose.

gotta say though the first time I partied with a fletcher on a boss rush party I just stared at the screen looking dumb to see how a single fletcher destroyed harpeia. lmao magic arrow did almost all the work

Nerf one META, people will make a new META. End gamers care about efficiency so if you are running with random people, expect people to play by META since it’s easier to coordinate and work with random people using common strategies.

Good thing this is an MMORPG though. Try to talk to people and make friends and you can develop your own strategies and beat Earth Tower without following some generic META format.

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Instead of spending time to nerf those popular classes, I would love to see IMC spend more time on classes like Swordsman, Necromancer, Sorcerer, Hunter, Bokor…

And revamp all bosses and monsters so they can actually deal different kind of damage and counter different classes.

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Update all boss attack patterns will be good and more mechanics in boss battles.

Quick cast with att.? That’s from leveling class points into it - not from attibute.

Magic MISSLE against bosses = insane damage? Lol 3 strikes of 1k-2k damage is OP guys. We have a swordsman who lost to a Wiz3 and is crying on the forums.

Ah, it’s like being on the blizzard forums again

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I’d rather the underwhelming classes get revamped than have the meta classes be nerfed. Doing what you suggested is just going to have people seeking to spill your blood. :stuck_out_tongue:

You might want to see all the cryo, chrono, kino in the ET

The problem with quick cast is that it removes the need to add INT, because +50% magic damage is better than all the INT you can get. If they reduce the attribute to 20% damage it would be fine.

Magic missile is fine though.

Nerf Quickcast and you can remove higher circles of Wiz altogether. Without the current system of combining Quickcast with Surespell, there is no reason take the class past the mandatory C1. And the impact on casttime-heavy classes would be notable too.

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No, Magic ARROW

Very true. Because “highly invested players” tend to have tunnel vision when it comes to efficiency, meta isn’t something you can easily be rid of. What OP really wants is for exlusionary mentality to vanish from MMO culture altogether.

I completely agree. It should. Also, best of luck with that one.

@renanforsaken2 Theres threads (ancient at this point) calling for the attribute on QC to be nerfed by like half. Sensible players of all kinds generally agreed to a partial nerf. As for 100% uptime, it didnt used to be so. Players complained then they (over?)buffed it. Just sayin’.

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That is just confusing, you’d think he was complaining about Wiz3 since he mentions Quick Cast. I knew about Magic Arrow but this was too easy.

It’s because Wiz3Elem3Warlock and ???Fletcher c3 are considered the 2 OP damage dealing classes from their trees, and the core reason being Quickcast’s attribute and Magic Arrow, hence the topic title.

I hear you. Thanks for the correction.

No mention of Frost Cloud? I am not against Ele3 having high dps but it’s way too powerful and the Quick Cast’s attribute just makes it even more so. Literally, this skill is all that’s needed in a grinding party to make most other class seem like they’re being carried, you could just make a party of 3 wiz3-ele3-warlock, have a swordman peltasta to be the taunt slave and a healer and you’re all set to decimate everything.

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