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Thoughts on bot slaying

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#1

So I was bored, been thinking about how to kill bots.
Considering they probably haven’t developed a way to navigate themselves back to their botting maps, killing them would ruin them a day of efforts.

Here’s my theories…

Method Number 1:

  1. Get a lv80-ish Cleric C3.
  2. Go to lv100+ maps.
  3. Cast Fade on yourself.
  4. Look for a bot.
  5. Cast Guardian Saint under the bot.
  6. Remove Fade.
  7. Get hit by mobs.

Getting hit by something 20lv beyond your lvl is most likely going to insta-kill you. But since you have Guardian Saint activated, the bot is going take the damage for you, hence killing the bot very quickly.

The down side to this method is that Guardian Saint only activates 50% of the time. So it might take a few tries to kill one bot.

You could bring a friend and initiate a duel after Guardian Saint has been cast. This way you won’t actually die but the bot will.

Method Number 2:

  1. Get a Bokor C2 or C3.
  2. Max Mackangdal.
  3. Find a bot.
  4. Wait for the bot getting teamed by mobs.
  5. Use Mackangdal on the bot.

Considering bots would never put points in CON, and would only heal if they are low enough, the burst of damage from the end of Mackangdal might just kill the bot in higher lvl maps.

There’s another post about bot killing with Oracle.
I’ll put a link here for people looking for more:
Oracles Vs. Bots and what you can do

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#2

most bots come back after dying in my experience

if enough people start ■■■■■■■ with bots, they’ll just evolve even more (ie change channels if certain effects are applied to them)

the most you can get is some lulz

#3

I wish physical link would work for non party people. :imp:

#4

Did you have any cleric c3? I would like to see a video of it killing a bot

#5

whats your bot killing build?

im thinking of making a cleric2>bokor3>oracle>PD f or easy leveling if i ever make a bot killer, i already have 2 clerics

#6

Oracle is the best to kill bot just change a mob util you get some mob with 50k + hp hitting like truck

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#7

Or they’ll do what botters did in FFXIV. I still remember all those black mage bots in FFXIV… jesus. Even saw swarms of them just standing around not even caring.

But like… many botters actually started hiding inside walls or underneath the ground so enemies couldn’t aggro them and players couldn’t see them.

#8

bot killing is fun but it gets bored becos ,those bots could restart in the map instantly,
but in some games ,once u die = town teleport
that is when players starts to REALLY treat a priest with outmost love and respect, not to mention priest became a wealthy class ,being paid to ress XD
and the world chat having loads of ppl shouting “paying xxx to be ress at xyz location”

#9

bot will auto back to it’s previous farming area after dead so it’s meaning less

#10

Probably they can come Back to the map. But if u do this in a dungeon map u can get some gems, YAY

#11

It would be amazing if players had even a little more power to take matters into their own hands. The current machine learning system has potential, but it most likely won’t be expedient enough to make an impact once they resume creating new accounts.

Take oracles as a positive example and create mechanics that allow players more freedom to hunt these parasites as we see them. Because even if they evolve, genuine players armed with proper tools will always be a strong deterrent.

I’m being intentionally vague here. Not sure what such mechanics would look like honestly…

#12

perfect bot is indistinguishable from a real player

spam bot is another matter

#13

no matter how perfect a bot is, its still a bot. a program to be precise.

a living GM ingame can only be the answer.

even loading screen tells the difference between GM and a regular player.

Do they even exist?? that explains it.

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#14

you will not be able to identify a perfect bot

there are bots that use http://www.cleverbot.com/ for processing questions

there are private bots with flawless routes & playerlike movement as well as custom options such as:

  • buff other players
  • skip monsters if players are killing them
  • instantly log off/change channel when another player is nearby (before you see the bot)
  • stop moving for a moment make generic talk with nearby player

thats just a small sample of what silver grinding bots can do

living gm ingame is borderline retarded, very unproductive. better to focus on actually improving the game, developers cost money, hiring a janitor is derpy.

chat bot spammers are the only ones that can be identified easily and get hit

price on silver is at its lowest, why do you think that is?

#15

I see a Oracle last night giving mob 60k HP… bots ran in and WHAM! dead…

But they came back 2 minutes later…

what we found is most of bots dont repair their gear… so after a few trolls to the same bot, it became pretty useless since they can only kill 1 or 2 mobs before getting stomped again…

btw… it was hillarious

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#16

Conducting more frequent bot sweeps is not unreasonable as a future request. Log in, sweep a handful of notorious, high level maps, then log out and move onto more pressing matters of the day. No need to hire the janitor.

A presence with the means to take out the trash would be appreciated. You’ll find quite a few botters that are both high level and happily farming even after being successively reported ingame and out. GM’s need to be able to distinguish a player from someone actively botting. Its a necessity if you intend to take RNG control in your game seriously. But hey, thats my 2cents.

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#17

I have personally reported bots months ago and just yesterday there it is again happily farming without a care or concern.

This is a clear indication that the current bot reporting system is flawed and in dire need of an improvement if not an overhaul.

Its just like @Arkova said, an occasional sweep doesnt hurt anyone.

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#18

This is by far the most constructive solution I’ve seen on these forums to deal with the bot problem. I hope this works for you. :smiley:

#19

Talking about giving more “power” to the players… What if the game acess still restrict forever from now and to join the game you need an friend invite?
Real ppl can always ask for a invite on the forums and this would stop at least those damn gold sellers on town and even the shout channel. Big problem of the free mmo is that the sellers can create tons of accounts and just replace the bot a few minutes later
I was planning to create a thread about it but im afraid from ppl reaction :<

#20

From my experience gems disappear before other players can pick them up