oh really, then as yourself… if given a chance to sweep those bots with a GM command. how much or how many can you caught? you can’t identify a bot and a non-bot player?
humans are far more greater than any program has ever made. i assure you. seeing how you address thing like this makes me lose faith in Humanity.
This isnt just on instanced dungeons?
@elzeraus
you dont know a single dev tho 
also i would not ‘‘sweep’’ bots myself if i were ‘‘given a chance’’ i have more important stuff to do with my life. bots are responsibility of imc and there is not much you can do to help them.
tfw i dont even care about bots and still killed more of them than you https://sendvid.com/gd413qpd
@Arkova
people make mistakes
people cost money
programs make less mistakes
developers already exist and get paid
thats why you will never see GMs policing the game 24/7. Sure if you make a report they might go ahead and ban the suspect as its really easy to check the logs. you can make any argument but a human being WILL NEVER police bots 24/7 that much i can promise you.
basically its very derpy to have an actual developer police the game instead of developing means to battle them automatically, and hiring a janitor is not cost efficient or reliable.
@Avidity
who’s told you to go 24/7 bot hunting? no one does
who’s sane enough to go policing the game 24/7? no one does
Dev will police the game ? they don’t have to. many people are more than willing to volunteer for that 
the point is, no matter how long or short a GM ingame will police the game, it still impose a ‘tremendous’ threat to bot users. why? because there’s no escape there. it’s your PROGRAM, dealing with a real person at a given moment.
you sure are confident to say that bots are ‘flawless’, sounds like it would be near-impossible to distinguish them. and that’s the sad part 
BTW, your vid encourage me to make an Oracle. look FUN, really really FUN 
there are very few top notch bots atm, next to none honestly
the thing with good bots - you will not encounter them in game. if you know that somebody is a bot than that bot is likely publicly available
noway imc is gonna let normal users police the bots
something like csgo overwatch would be interesting to see tho
i’m not sure if this would work… but GM’s could mass summon everyone from certain areas and let them do a little test. Those that stil move around, teleport away without the means to should stick out…
if they would consider something like this i would also like to add that they
program it so it’s clear to players that were moving befor being teleported.
otherwise bot owners will just program it so that they stop moving and just seem afk.
that would work initially
the thing is - you’ll need to design certain amount of areas for tests
when bots fail tests they will learn what went wrong and eventually pass all the tests, it becomes cat and mouse game
add new content to battle bots - lots of bots get banned - eventually bots learn how to solve the puzzle - add new content to battle bots - lots of bots get banned - eventually bots learn how to solve the puzzle - etc
these tests could be rather simple but interactive ones, they would have to be
done manually by a GM and he could disable the accounts directly afterwords.
examples:
can be anything the GM feels like at that time, the key thing would
be that the event doesn’t take alot of time to do and gets results fast…
clever bots can never answer a live person well, those questions you posts are generic. real people won’t ask something like that to catch them if they’re bot or not.
same thing as i keep on saying, only a LIVE GM can do the trick.
as Avidity said, programs to counter bots will always be patched, and patched, and patched all over again. in the end, it’s just an endless loop.
the question is, if they were able to spend for trying to make a software/program/patches for bot programs, why can’t they do a manual sweep ingame themselves?
simple, they are lazy. and stupid.
all of that can be learned by bots
besides, there are some non english speakers in-game
you want to avoid false positives by any means
it would really suck to have an honest player banned : - (
thats why devs take their time to try and battle bots, it’s really hard to have a full proof system.
this was my take on chat spam: [Klaipeda] 📣 SHOUT BOT SPAM 📣 POTENTIAL SOLUTION? it has few problems too
so we kinda agree if a GM does a manual sweep it would work,
any other system that would allow normal players to do this
sweep would certainly result into abuse.
so the only thing to do for them is to find a system as where they can
do a manual sweep over a high amount of players in a short amount of time.
as for non english speaking gamers i’m sure GM’s should be able to adapt to
this problem.
but oh well… suppose we’ll see where this is going…
it would work to an extent (majority of the bots) but it would not happen
its not cost/time efficient for any company
well… if that happends to fall out of budget they could promote a certain
number of players to do these sweeps (in group). Risking there own account
if they would happen to abuse this status, and make it a group decision every time to avoid abuse (again).
(should also keep video material etc, because obviously botters won’t come out
and confirm that they are botters)
i’m sure it’s not that hard to select people based on play time, certain rare items obtained, forum activity, guild status, etc…
main issue here could be abuse, so i’d recommend you let the people
that take care of the ticket support have the final say…
let the ones that do good work be reward and the ones that abuse it be banned.
it’s plain simple. the game allowed recording feature.
a 2-3min interrogation with bots is more than suffice to prove their innocence. there would be no other reason why you can’t comply to a GM if he asks you several questions.
why would you even ask a player if he’s a bot, or are you a bot? knowing those are generic questions that can be handled by their software. ask them something else, there are tons and millions, billions of words to use.
and a big NO, they can’t let players do the sweep, it should be someone from their own TEAM. or hire a paid GM instead.
i have handled some time a server (RO) for a friend back then, and i do 1-2hours sweep duty daily. it’s plain simple, and easy. yet effective.
people can @request if they suspect someone
warps to that person
conduct several procedures (dealing, trading, recalling, convesation etc.)
jail the said character
later on player will message and file a ticket why he was jailed. he was innocent he says.
shows the 2-3min video of conducting human-bot procedure.
founds guilty
pleads his account to gets released, (even tried to bribe GM because he spent so much for that account)
how is that even hard?