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This will answer (almost) all of your questions about the STR vs DEX debate (pvp not included)

General Discussion
#102

Dopple deeds actually scale more to weapons than str.
You are still missing 50% damage + crit damage mod scaling if you invest 0 dex though.

I mean yes you have 150% that’s not enough to win 50% scaling inclusive of the 150% at the sacrificial of that little patt O_o…

You can have so much crit damage additional but if you don’t even crit… you will still end up losing as a flat mere 400 PD extra with deeds 2.5 mod doesn’t win a total mod of 1.5 and this includes crit damage added in when you crit…

#103

@unicorntheshiny i need some math magic.

with a base P.atk of 1k what is the ratio of power increment per 500 or 1k damage increase in according to attribute levels: (assuming monster has 0 def)

list:

1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1000) * attribute 25% = ???
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1500) * attribute 25% = ???
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (2000) * attribute 25% = ???

1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1000) * attribute 50% = ???
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1500) * attribute 50% = ???
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (2000) * attribute 50% = ???

1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1000) * attribute 75% = ???
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1500) * attribute 75% = ???
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (2000) * attribute 75% = ???

need to have atleast basic thought of this before i jump into something that would costs me skill reset potions :sob:

#104

Can i assume you have 400 Critical attack on here?

[details=25% attributes]1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1000) * attribute 25% = 2500
On crit = (2000 * 1.5 + 400 ) * 1.25 = 4250
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1500) * attribute 25% = 3125
On Crit = (2500 * 1.5 + 400 ) * 1.25 = 5187.5/5187
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (2000) * attribute 25% = 3750
On Crit = (3000 * 1.5 + 400 ) * 1.25 = 6125[/details]

[details=50% attributes]1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1000) * attribute 50% = 3000
On Crit = (2000 * 1.5 + 400) * 1.5 = 5100
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1500) * attribute 50% = 3750
On Crit = (2500 * 1.5 + 400) * 1.5 = 6226
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (2000) * attribute 50% = 4500
On Crit = (3000 * 1.5 + 400 ) * 1.5 = 7350[/details]

[details=75% attributes]1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1000) * attribute 75% = 3500
On Crit = (2000 * 1.5 + 400) * 1.75 = 5950
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (1500) * attribute 75% = 4375
On Crit = (2500 * 1.5 + 400) * 1.75 = 7262.5/7262
1,000 P.atk + skill damage (2000) * attribute 75% = 5250
On crit = (3000 * 1.5 + 400 ) * 1.75 = 8575[/details]

Not sure if you want the total ratio or just the % damage increment.

Because if we factor in crit it’s a different story. a Non crit in this case is linear. So no matter how much you compare on non crit it’s flat bonus

Like for example 2000 Pattack total with 25% attributes versus 2500 Pattack total with 25% the difference is 1.25 @_@. or basically 25%

Doppelsoeldner : cyclone?
#105

thanks, i think i’m gonna do it right.

and yes, i just wanted to know the % damage increment. but i simply got it from the answers you gave. 500bonus damage per skill level is a valuable number, specially when it hits 50% attribute. not to mention this is just the basic numbers, and outside modifiers will make thing numbers grow.

heu. you know where i’ll be using this :wink:

#106

stop punishing mobs @_@. they are innocent

remember to give Sturtzhau at least 1 point as well though ( it’s a nice filler that can hit 400k easily if you have money to dump)

#107

i’ll post results once i reset, i still need to get my zornhau to 6 so i can get the attribute before reset.

do i look like Punishing as well?

#108

Guhehe. Burn the marnee. masochist confirmed