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The Wugushi Problem

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Wugushi is interesting, and I know it’s listed as a support class, but it does do some damage, and because of that, IMC should consider making Wugushi viable for PvP. (In PvE, Wugushi is okay. No complaints here, though it is outclassed in some aspects.)

As it stands, Wugushi is useless in PvP. Cleric’s cure can remove each of our poisons, and Plague Doctor can buff their allies to be immune to all of our poisons entirely.

Even without a cleric, there are antidotes that nearly everybody carries around with them and dispellers from pardoners, both of which can be used to remove our poisons and easily counter Wugushi.

How is this fair? All of Wugushi’s abilities are totally nullified in PvP (confusion doesn’t work in PvP either). I think IMC should at least remove antidotes from the game, or at least nerf them to not affect Wugushi’s poisons, so we can at least do something against non-clerics in PvP.

What do you guys think?

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#2

This is mostly a problem with Plague Doctor’s bloodletting, which definitely needs to be addressed. There shouldn’t be a blanket skill that affects the entire party as a buff that simply makes you immune to most debuffs in the game. There is no skill involved in using this skill, and there is no counterplay.

Antidotes should be given a cooldown, similar to healing potions. Since they only cure one poison at a time, this would be rather balanced.

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#3

Yes, I agree. At the moment we have this

And it’s just stupid. I have no idea why they gave it no CD, I think it should have a CD of about a minute or so.

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#4

how can you not drink a liquid whenever you want? even though this is a game it’s pretty realistic you know? XD

EDIT: Don’t like this post please, now that i think about it, if people drank antidote nonstop they will be poisoned. the wugushi problem is real and i hope antidote got a cooldown it’s even more realistic.

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#5

PD and stone skin are big problems. but i ddnt know about the antidote.
its even worse than swordsman problem.

why they keep ignoring pvp in this game. cmon!!
and we cant even make premades for arenas!! and now all the p2w bulsht…

if IMC keep the game like this they will have problems with a lot of ppl later, i’m really trying to help ppl, to convince ppl that waiting 10 days isnt that bad, they dont need to tumbs down the game in steam

but each day its harder to do such things =/

if they want Tree of Plague Doctor, i can create one… the most OP possible, and ppl will quit the game or create one too =)

[sry for the big text, i’m kinda pissed with this stuff right now]

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#6

It’s alright man, I feel you

#7

They had all of this because it’s the only way to counter

#8

Adding a CD to the Antidote would be amazing yea :slight_smile:

#9

Yeah I think that would solve the majority of problems here.

#10

just dont let antidote be useg in pvp, and nerf plague doctors…

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#11

I don’t think PD needs a nerf, instead Wugushi’s poisons should be changed to rank 3 or 4 debuffs instead of rank 1 and 2 so they can’t be resisted as much.

If they were made into rank 3 debuffs, then Bloodletting wouldn’t let the PD’s allies resist, and PD would have an 80% chance of resisting our poisons instead of a 100% chance, from Beak Mask.

This would also stop Fumigate from removing all of our poisons instantly on targets not already immune to them from Bloodletting.

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#12

Wugushi is meant to be support, so isn’t this fine? Anyone who picks it shouldn’t be expecting to do well with damage in pvp

#13

They don’t actually support either so it’s not fine. I think the problem is that people are expecting to be able to do SOMETHING in PvP with Wugushi.

#14

But you could say the exact same thing about HP potions which most games have a cool down on. Also abilities… I cant use my skills whenever I want? How unrealistic.

#15

Wugushi isn’t support, it’s a poison DoT damage dealer.

#16

I didn’t make this thread looking to make Wugushi good in PvP, I only want Wugushi to be viable in PvP and not utterly useless.

#17

Pvp is not balanced at all in this game so who cares?

Imc will probably never make wugushi useful in pvp because this is a pve game. If you want pvp play something else.

#18

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#19

LOL teemo build. well played man.

#20

Uhhh… thanks for this, I guess