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The most egotistical and scumbag base class

As a person with a massive ego, I voted archer/cleric, since those were the 2 classes I rolled first. I think it’s more specific though.

I rolled an archer to oneshot people as a musketeer. I’d call that considerably egotistical. I like seeing that I have the most kills on my team after a TBL match, often even if my team loses. I’ll make a risky play knowing I’ll die if it’s a good trade (myself for their only healer or highest damage output, or multiple players).

I rolled a full support cleric because I like feeling important. Healing is generally tremendously easy and many are bad at it, so I like the ego boost when people think I’m God’s greatest gift to the earth for a clutch heal–when I did something so brainless.

And revenged sevenfold is about as scumbag as you can get.

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the swordie have the same build as mine blame me for losing in TBL against cleric/mage team when he himself can’t even do jack about it :joy_cat:

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When an enemy team composed of kinowarlock, necrosorc, and clerics have R7F, ausrine, bloodlet and revive — and our team only has swordsmen and archers. :joy_cat:

It’s predestined! It gets more funny when an archer team member who dies first calls out a swordsman for being useless. :joy_cat:

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To be fair, a swordsman running out into the middle of an enemy team of kinolock/necrosorc/healers/etc alone (cause they do it, all the time) is actually pretty useless unless your plan is throw arrest/hook/the game.

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Archer by a long mile.

I avoided the class for a long time due to their inherent range and KS-ey nature. Not that I’m saying they all intentionally act like d-bags, but most do.

Case in point, the moment I made an Archer, I was met with another Archer attempting to show dominion over Cafrisun.

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in queues when someone dies and respawns, rest of party get boss to low health and waits for that player to arrive at boss. alot of times theres this trigger happy person who would rather kill the boss and makes respawn player loose cube or exp. those are usually archers who really want that golden top deeps bubble on their head. also most of the salty players who afk or decides to sit on runs are usually archers and swordies. atleast i’ve encountered more archers than swordies doing this. as for clerics, i’ve never really met one that does or say anything that would irritate anyone besides the ones that have their heal damage removal off when they are the only healer. surprisingly elememes, for a dps class just seem to proceed to do their thing, hardly encountered one that irritates me. there are actually more cryos that get on my nerves than elememes, the ones that ice wall in a straight line to block out a swordie and other classes with melee range skills, skills that are aoe and hits ice walls but missed bosses. and theres this salty thauma who keeps following my grind party and casting reversi on elememes frost cloud for an hour. all for what, because party didn’t want him/her for not being an elememe. so even these players with rainbow snowflake builds can be as irritating. and theres afk necro sorcs who stole a whole map from people who needed to grind in that range. but there are people even worse than afk sorc necros, the afk ones who used their companions to kill crap for extremely low silver on crystal mine and tenant church while theres low levels doing quest. theres also these battle bracelet farming dragoons that ks you while the only target they should be seeking is that elite mob.

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Dayum, that “Monk-DPS” was an *sshole to top all *ssholes!

Edit: Voted for Cleric because I remember a lot of them spam their buffs mindlessly (at the starting countdown) as well as having no regard for your buff limits.

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its usually those priest or chaplains who erase your pardoner buffs.

Which is not really important cause they cast the buffs themselves.

Wat?

People do actually wait for fallen members to return before finishing off a boss? Never really noticed that. Well, not I care either way. Both my PD and Pelt/Squire are pathetic at dmg and dont die cause they are tanky.

Listen to yourself and re-evaluate what you just said.

Most of those that “overbuff” people (or just spam buffs) either contribute against the party’s DPS by overwriting people’s higher level buffs (AND/OR their personal buffs) or worse, by not buffing at the right time; essentially “underbuffing”. As a support, you should always take into account that your party members may have self-buffs that THEY NEED to keep up so that they remain efficient.

Oh look, your Stone Skin is on CD while your party is getting pummeled, could’ve used it now instead of when the timer was ticking down from 30s and there’s no mobs yet (an example of improper buff usage).

Oh you’re an Archer that has limited buff slots? Guess I’ll just have to cast everything on top of everything (praise da lawd halleluya!).

TAKE NOTE, this does not cover/provide an excuse for bad players, but the overall usefulness of your or their buff is wasted.

One other thing, Aspersion Lv16/17 or Sacrament Lv11/12 is not normally learnt (nor buffed) by Priests, which is one of the more common buffs replaced during Mission Runs.

Not that they’ll die because of the loss of these buffs, but your argument was this kind of behavior is fine because you’ll replace it constantly (which not all CAN or DO).

Plus the insurmountable difference in duration from a Pardoner-bought Aspersion/Sacrament versus a party-Priest-provided one is no joke; they also paid for those buffs (this is an issue to a lesser extent).

This varies from scenario to scenario though.

TL;DR

There’s no excuse for “this” kind of behavior.

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Way back when I was still using Sr, I seriously hope I won’t que up with a random priest c3/ chaplain. Good thing some people who reroll consider krivis not unlike those days where priest c3 is littered everywhere.

I was only referring to the Pardoner buffs being kicked. And Priest3 can recast them, though most likely not the same level of Sacrament and Aspersion.

EDIT: was @DiMeowgio , but read only mode delayed the post

EDIT²: The bufflimit issue was the main reason for me to add Krivis to Priest3. With Daino, I can just laugh at the bufflimit while using everything I have.

Then you pretty much proved my point. I was merely trying to point out that “this behavior” is inexcusable, even if you can buff it back, because chances are:

A) You won’t remember to (or they’re not in range when you do).
B) It’s not even close to the same level as what they had (bought).
C) With other buff(s) present while this is happening, their other buffs get pushed out.
D) All of the above.

And yes, I have a Lv280 C2-P3-Cha-Ora that has a stockpile of Lv5 Daino scrolls made by my Lv145 C2-P1-K1-Par and I also have a Lv201 C2-K3-Dru (that doesn’t need to do that) and I understand that all these “issues” are negated by having Daino up (at least Lv5+).

In a perfect world, we’d always be paired with someone that has a Krivis (with Daino learnt up to Lv5) or a Daino scroll user… that’s not the reality though.

Archer.
King of KS, mob stealing and bragging about their +15+++ gears.

Swordsman - they have already been buffed and they insist that they are still weak and complain. There are like 1-10 swordie complaint thread everyday. Cant handle too much facepalm

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Archer.

  • kill steal
  • party swift step
  • drag boss out of aoe circles
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Yep. I just do that too now…

I just remember this In my siauli mission

Cocky fletcher: I love how this catagoon afk. He thinks he is doing the damage .lol.
*he is 1 and I am 2
Me: :neutral_face:

Note the other 3 archers are already killing the mob…one hit each…

In tbl…fletcher again

Cocky fletcher: noob cata
Me: yes. I Just created my cata 3 days ago.:expressionless:
Cocky fletcher: look at all my kills. Compared to yours noob.
Me::expressionless:
Cocky fletcher: dont play cata.noob

Another tbl match

Dead fletcher: Run penguin run!lol.
Me: r6 goon vs 4 foes. Killed 1.:expressionless:

Other classes. I never encountered cocky bitches yet…

Dont blame me for thinking ■■■■ with that one skillswonder class🙂…
Statistics says it all…

Yes people do that. It won’t hurt to hold it out for less than a minute so some poor player won’t loose his cube or exp due to a common human error. Unless you don’t really have time and have to catch the bus right outside your house or something. But in that situation you shouldn’t even be queueing for runs in the first place.