Why start this poll though?
It’s the player, not the class, who has an attitude problem.
As for complaints, there would be none if there’s nothing to complain about. Try leveling a swordsman with no pelt beyond 250+ and you’ll understand how optional a swordsman party member is unless he has swashbuckling. Maybe R8 will change that, maybe not. That’s just an example. I’m not claiming only swordsmen have problems.
I’ve met a fair share of assholes from each tree, and respectable ones as well.
In a stand point, players choosing a class can be an indication of quirks, preferences and personality itself. Especially for those people who re-rolled for a certain class, whom abandoned their first or second choice classes.
It’s actually interesting once the archer hit the top of the poll since I haven’t thought of archers having that sort of reputation. Second, this can be a reference and indication for the current health of the game, ideally in a poll like this the votes should be more or less equal in distribution, but now seeing how others loathe some base classes because of imbalances is one of the game flaws Imc should respond to.
Archers for ksing even if its their fault or not.
Wizards for afk farming. To be clear though i dont care if people use their pets to farm for them if they keep an eye on their character… but i dont like if people go to sleep, work or whatever else for hours and afk farm.
Poor Dina Bee farm, it used to be a lovely place…Whenever I thought of ego wizzies for some reason I think of Elememes
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I thought this poll is about class design.
Archer design = most ego, or most solo, no party play. Only way to contribute is to get top dps. Without top dps or high dps, your party contribution has failed - no support, heal, link, can’t soak damage, etc. When you enter a party, people have to support you since you can’t support them.
Swordsman design = less ego, high HP, some useful debuffs, some classes have excellent burst. Contributes through soaking damage, dps, debuffing, swashbuckling. Even if dps is low, they may soak hits. This mechanic is just very very unwanted by everyone, since killing a mob quickly is the point of the game. Suffers being melee, and low range on skills. Requires heals due to high HP pool and slow recovery.
Wizard design = all-in-1 kits, have links, summon, buffs, AoE, and top CC. Contributes through AoE dps, top CC, or utility party buffs. Locked into worst stat in-game if they wish to boost damage, INT. No crits, but magic can’t miss.
Cleric design = main healers of the game, main revivers/ress of the game, main buffers, immunity, cc immunity, some cc. Contributes through keeping everyone healthy, and dps/cc. Some clerics suffer from hit-count skills, and hitcount divides through mobs. Has to pick either magical path or physical path, or full support - some classes have mixed skills magic/physical, inconvenient to stat and gear.
Yep archers. From all 4 classes. Most of the cocky son of a b!tch mother fuker I encountered ingame are in that class. Specifically one skill wonder fletchers…
It’s a bit mixed actually. Whether would people pick a certain class over the other is dependent on how the community views the class itself. However It’s interesting too if we’re speaking beyond the psychological responses of people. The job may be intended that way but others verdict and deviate from the norms.
I just picked the top 2 choices for no particular reason.
I think you may find a clue based on the responses vs class design why a class is treated the way it is treated.
I’d like to have more data, I know swordies and wizards are leading on the hate train for a while now but seeing how archer as a general dps class getting some hate is intriguing itself. Another thing to note, whenever people haven’t played the other base class, does it give a prejudice the other one? Or is it a simple domino effect in the community.
I want an abusive Cleric in my party, that let me get hurt and beg for heal, only so to give it to me later and bind me madly in love.
Archers (QS3/Wugushi, Fletcher) usually won’t take it easy when they are not #1 DPS on missions, then they start to rage and sometimes even AFK.
I believe it’s dependency too. Example, if you’re a high HP swordie, you expect your party cleric to heal you and help you. A full support cleric likely expects the other members to get top dps. AoE wizards expect you to group mobs nicely since they are skill-dependent. Once archers start dealing damage they won’t stop, since there’s no down-time required to cast party support skills/CC, they will expect you to cover them.
I think most votes are based on experience. Either the experience was truly bad. Or the expectations were too high or just wrong?
That’s true, like you said a while ago archers seems to be the least dependent of them all. Maybe except for some low aoe builds, archer seems to be a high expectant class. Months ago, maybe I could consider the Ks archers that are too rampant, but right now everyone seems to be ethical enough. A hypothetical guess would be the past experience greatly affects their view at the moment.
swordman coz i hate seeing forum fill with their complain everyday… lol
I guess I’m missing something and that it’s just your opinion, but I don’t understand why hate players of a certain class for complaining when there are obvious reasons to complain about. Maybe you’re just trying to come up with a generalization here.
Well if I had to pick one based on experience, it’d be wiz. There was one I got teamed up with during TBL who was just so toxic to his 2 swordie teammates saying things like “sword so useless”. I only hate the player though, not the class.
Regarding the swordsmancomplaindepartment, it was too redundant in nature, seeing how everytime when the swordie issue popped up on Ktos thread, when they could just obviously post it on the general thread or the complain thread, and for the elememe my train of reason was the blind picking of a meta class. Aside from knowing the implications that Warlock 2 is a shady class before it was revealed, nevertheless people picked it because of the meta. I’m not saying Warlock 2 is totally bad, I’ve seen videos using mastesma soloing 240 dungeon but the clear lack of proper judgment in class picking made a downfall for it.
But hey XD like the hypothesis I said a while ago, seems like past experiences (which are most notably seen) greatly affect the result of the poll, not generally the class itself.
I was going to say exactly that. Thank you!
Pretty pointless, if I were to be completely honest (the poll).
All, been a scumbag has nothing to do with the class and more to do with the trash using it…
a more accurate title would be “what class do scumbag and egotistic trash use”
and I would say archer cause it’s long range and fast…
but then again most bots are clerics…
and before most scumbags were swordsman