Tree of Savior Forum

The Great Rebalancing

But at least they plan to return stuff to you.

“Our plan is to, after resetting all transcended equipment, convert all the materials invested into the new unified Goddess’ Blessed Gems and distribute them back to the players. Any recipes and Blessed Gems you may have saved will also be exchanged for the new versions.”

So all is not lost really.

You pretty much summarize why I hate the current MMO generation of players.

I honestly can’t remember the last free MMO I played that there was an actual wall and it’s not some 10 year old game lol.

The truth is every single free MMO i’ve played was P2W or eventually turned into a P2W though even without a “wall”.

Buying for power = P2W
Buying for cosmetics and costumes = Pay for convenience

When this game first released, it was more of the latter because you could pay for what? 30% more exp and stuff? That stuff is basically inconsequential. Trans system changed everything because it can literally make you 550% stronger so I consider it to be P2W now.

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  • Use flags :white_check_mark:
  • Use flags on someone who speaks the truth about a company :white_check_mark:
  • It admits being in a social bubble of company worshipers.:white_check_mark:
  • Maniipulates all problems of the company, praising positive parts :white_check_mark:
  • Fiercely attacks anyone against his or her opinion :white_check_mark:
  • Receives likes from others WKs :white_check_mark:

You need to review your concepts or control your minions.

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I’ve a question not related to the topic.

If the game were to shut down all its international servers, would you also feel robbed?

I guess this is the result of many decisions from IMC that were not fully analysed, still, feeling robbed when you got the benefits in the past and will stop to get them in the future seems odd. I guess I’ll never be able to relate to such feeling, I did not spend beyond 10 bucks for early access, and I spent them knowing full well things are subject to change.

My investment is not as huge as yours so as I said, I cannot relate.

Its good that’s moved from that direction. I just find it strange TP items can be sold tbh. But at least the company isn’t selling direct power.

Of course the precedence of > buy outfit >sell outfit > get $$ >buy shards > get better gear. Probably not the best.

As of right now the trans system does make it required for ET to clear it reliably. However like you said we have the hope that this rework will not make it necessary for alot of content but a nice goal to work on.

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When you can easily convert tokens into silver into shards you can quite easily acquire power with $$. All it takes is some system that can make you 550% stronger.

Before, there wasn’t any system to make you 550% stronger so it’s still “pay for convenience”.

I’ll humor you one last time, lest you start to believe in your own rhetoric. You sure do like to make a lot of assumptions. I’ll use your own list, if you don’t mind.

  • I never used, nor admitted to using flags, I simply pointed out why someone may have flagged the complaining user. God forbid someone make an accurate observation without being a direct participant.
  • See above. Also, “speaking the truth” about the past, which cannot be changed, still does not make it relevant to the thread, nor conducive to the discussion.
  • You sure like to use the word “admit” without any understanding, don’t you? How do you figure I’m part of some clique on this forum? What proof do you have? I started posting to help people with addons and decided to throw both my advice and snark where I saw fit. I don’t think anyone on this forum actually even knows who I am, even though it would be easy to determine with a quick Google search.
  • If you bothered to pull your head out of your ass and actually check my post history, you’d see that I’ve leveled plenty of criticism against the company, but it’s also been relevant to the topic it’s contained in, and provides constructive feedback and/or solutions along with it.
  • “Fiercely attacks” is not the same as pointing out the ignorance and stupidity of a career forum troll.
  • I have no control over who does or doesn’t like my posts. Radical concept: Maybe my no-kiddie-gloves statements of truth earn a smile from someone? You should try smiling sometime.

I know reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, but see if just maybe you can pull up Google Translate and work your way through all of that. Then feel free to get back to me. Preferably in private messages, even though you’ve made it your goal to derail this thread with your asinine assertions.

Go on, I’ll wait. I have a long history of dealing with morons on forums. You’re no different from any of the others.

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Well, at least in old MMO’s time and dedication were the investment, now it’s just throwing cash, and be fooled, over and over. They start with cosmetics, all naive and cute, then the whale craving for your credit card shows its face. It doesnt even qualify as a game, in my perspective. And we are also guilty, for playing their game in the first place. Buy heck, I thought ToS was going to be different, it wasn’t.

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And when do you suppose I used that flag? In this thread? In another thread? My statement still stands: You have no proof I ever flagged any of the complaining user’s posts.

@VacaOverpower Here ya go, bucko

But the thing is it isn’t required for it to happen. Surely you can do those things but you don’t need to.

Yes, buying ■■■■ will speed up the process but the fact is. It is NOT impossible to get this stuff without spending a dime. It just takes a very long time.

The way you’re wording it sounds like you’re suggesting that there was no way to obtain high transcendence unless you paid money. This simply isn’t true. Was it easy to do? No! absolutely not. But with this patch the hope is that this crap ISN’T required.

Stop derailing the topic,
Do not call me here again.

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@VacaOverpower

“I admit to being unable to argue with your counter-points to my accusations, and your image evidence which shut down the last straw I was grasping for.”

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

Hey, if you want to keep arguing something out of the topic, send me a message.
The truth is up there.

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RMT Tears are among the fanciest of MMO forum delicacies.

But maybe you missed the part where imc will give back all the stones you’ve used, and you could maybe sell them and make your money back?Crazy talk, i know.

tl;dr You’re not losing near as much as you claim.

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To mantain the level of competitivity, sadly yes, it is required. Don’t forget this is a ranked game.

Path of exile cames to my mind, such a great game, doing well, made with true passion, and no P2W at all.

@joeswaaz you can come out of your Man cave now. fix your swordman and play again. peace

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You can sell the Stones you get back and invest in over refine ,they are buffing it.

Analyze every aspect before going to extreme conclusions.

Man …the topic got derailed pretty fast. Stick with the discussion please

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