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Templar Info from JP FGT

4000 pairs want to marry. 3999 are straight and got no problem. 1 pair is gay and demands accreditation.

Then a possibility is a stupid argument. Okayā€¦ :pensive:

I believe that we now have enough evidence in this thread to say our community is now as shitty as LoLs. Congratulations guys we are now a form of cancer.

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welcome to the internet

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Scroll back up a little to see my exchange with arukado.

It should prove both enlightening and entertaining for you.

False. All we have are more and more people speaking out against clearly flawed ideas in addition to you and @arukadoā€™s feelings getting more and more hurt. Thatā€™s really just it.

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Yep, arguing with people with different opinion (or narrow-minded people as well too) are entertaining.

Donā€™t worry about my feelings @serusalti, theyā€™re fine.

Itā€™s amusing that the person who only wants guilds to work in a way that benefits him is calling the other person whoā€™s actually open to the unconventional templar guildmaker concept, among other things, narrow minded. Thank you for fulfilling my RDA for hypocrisy, my nutritionist thanks you.

Let me double check just to see iā€™m rightā€¦ letā€™s seeā€¦

Said Arukado like when God handed out the ten commandments. ā€œListen folks uhā€¦ i know this isnā€™t really set in stone but uhā€¦ Thou shalt not make guilds in any other way than what pleases me. just make this into a law and believe it to be an absolute truth simply because I said it. Go forth and multiply and what not.ā€

And why is it stupid and terrible? Who actually said and made it a rule that a guild leader can and should be of any class? It is stupid and terrible, in your view, simply because you donā€™t like it. Thatā€™s it, plain and simple.

Yep, that looks about right. Youā€™re a narrow minded hypocrite. Thank you come again!

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Ah okay! Now I understandā€¦ :hushed:
The fact is you donā€™t know how to read! Okay sorry buddy, Iā€™ll try to go slowly for you, bold for you the few keywords, maybe youā€™ll manage to understand.

Let us check it back together.

I bold it for you. Shall. A term indicating some conditions, not a Godā€™s commandment (ā€œconditionsā€ is a VERY important word here, very useful if you want to understand the speech).
Because in almost every MMORPG, creating a guild needs some requirements of that kind. Is this so hard for you to understand that? Btw Iā€™m not saying that ToS guild system has to be exactly like the other games, itā€™s still a supposition, that the guild system may be like the others.

Woaaa! You impress me. For once, you donā€™t say something totally wrong. Good Job! Iā€™m proud of you. :smile:

But let me develop that/answer to your questions.
No one said and made it a rule for ToS right now, because none of us know how it will be for sure, none of us is an IMC employee on the project I guess (-> supposition too). But thatā€™s the system of some (a lot of) other MMORPG. Take RO for example (people loves to compare ToS with RO haha ;)).
Youā€™re true about one thing: the fact that I like a guild system like that. I like the idea that anyone, of any class, has the opportunity to create a guild, it feels more friendly-user to me. That is the difference between want something and wish for something. Sorry to have different tastes than youā€¦ (please forgive me ^^)

But Iā€™ll repeat that for you (because you didnā€™t read it before): itā€™s all speculations.
We donā€™t have full clear informations about the guild system yet. Like everyone, Iā€™m waiting for them, to learn how will be the guild system. But the few unclear clues we have, donā€™t seduce me, thatā€™s true. I need to fill the blanks, the missing parts of the chosen guild system, to understand well how things will happen. Iā€™ll be glad to see a fully fonctiunal good guild system, and I hope that IMC will manage to change my opinion. Meantime, I just wanted to share/discuss about ONE other possibility. Iā€™m sorry if that bothers you.

Soā€¦ Iā€™m narrow minded hypocrite because I dare to suppose the ToSā€™ guild system will be something like in the other games?! Itā€™s a plausible supposition, not the absolute truthā€¦ Am I saying Iā€™m right and youā€™re wrong (about the guild system)? The answer is no.
I guess making suppositions is too hard for you. I feel sorry for you buddyā€¦

Was that clear enough for you? I hope youā€™ll learn how to read soon.
Good luck man, & donā€™t give up. Youā€™re gonna make it. :+1:

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ā€œTo create an omelette, one shall only need eggs and onionsā€

Sorry to burst your bubble but someoneā€™s been lying to you. SHALL ONLY is pretty definitive, it is not ā€œconditionalā€ Youā€™re literally the last person to be giving me lessons about semantics and vocab words. All that grammatically incorrect and painfully incoherent ranting and your first argument you so confidently posed and even boldfaced for my reading pleasure is a hilarious bust. You were not discussing anything. You clearly, in your own words, cast judgment and came to the solid conclusion that it is stupid and terrible regardless of how you apparently yourself knew that here was little information available for you, me and everyone elseā€¦ and between you, me, and everyone else take a wild guess as to who came to that conclusion that itā€™s stupid?

ā€œI shall name you Tobyā€

This unfortunately not mean that the individual in questionā€™s name is only Toby during Wednesday nights at 8 pm. or only when it rains. Jesus Christ.

Full Definition of SHALL

verbal auxiliary
1
a : will have to : must
b : will be able to : can

2
a ā€”used to express a command or exhortation
b ā€”used in laws, regulations, or directives to express what is mandatory

3
a ā€”used to express what is inevitable or seems likely to happen in the future
b ā€”used to express simple futurity

You should really stop, iā€™m seriously getting embarassed for you.

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are you new to forum/message boards? these things happen daily in every popular mmo forum.

So you clearly donā€™t know the difference between SHALL and WILLā€¦ I was pretty sure you could understand the full meaning of the word ā€œcanā€ (itā€™s written in your copy/paste definition)ā€¦ I guess I was wrong then, sorry my english isnā€™t perfect.

Okay my bad then, I should have started with the basics: replace ā€˜shallā€™ by ā€˜wouldā€™. Every ā€œifā€ I said would have made you guess thatā€¦
Iā€™m done with you, Champā€™.

I actually posted much earlier in this thread about the japanese event and their cbt, but never chimed in on the Templar debate here. So I p[laced my opinion on the subject.

If my post bothers you. Scroll passed it because thereā€™s plenty of it where that came from. :wink:

No sir, doesnā€™t bother me at all. At the very least even with your very short and indifferent post you made more sense than one person did in all of his. I donā€™t like to name names but his name rhymes with barukado. @Synnie

@Arukado good riddance and go be insufferable and hypocritical elsewhere. Gtfo the kitchen if you canā€™t stand the heat. Basically somewhere where people wonā€™t call you out on your flawed logic because you obviously are incapable of being or much less realizing you are wrong.

Ah. I gotchya. Typically most of my posts are short and too the point.

Hmmm, this is something like a joke right?

I could use some English lessons from you. :joy:

And Iā€™m the one with the flawed logicā€¦ How sweet! :laughing: #irony

Back to the topic. So weā€™ll have the first feedbacks of the templar class in one looooong monthā€¦
I wonder if IMC will give us few extra informations in the meantime. After all, that class is a huge source of debates. :wink:

Seriously, I donā€™t get the point of ā€˜All class X only guildā€™ wtf is it for? If any, it falls to the fun guild again and serves no real purpose other than probably fulfilling your fantasy of some Hogwarts-All-Mage-Only-Guild or Order-Of-The-Sword swordsman only guild or some stupid fails stuffs like that.

You donā€™t really argue with the system just because it doesnā€™t fit your fantasy.
You donā€™t argue that an archer canā€™t really jump shot or why other class canā€™t run like swordsman, itā€™s just how the systems are set up and you just have to accept it.

Seriously, screw for fun guild. Effing Casuals.

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But for now, we donā€™t know how exactly is the guild system. These debates are all about speculations & wishes.
We have to wait for final statements from IMC before acceptation.

Na i have been around for along time and i know they happen im part of the problem lol.