Tree of Savior Forum

Team Dex Vs Team Str ( Trash talking, discussion, roasting each other, math magician war ) Aka Debate STR Vs DEX

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1532

It’s on inven and i am block out at the moment if you are curious find proxied in the fencer thread. i believe he hits 60k with it atm (with venier)

#1533

The max i see it was 30k.

#1534

ive already looked for fencer thread, but im still doubt about fencer and doppel D:

#1535

you should be happy with around 20k per composee w/out supports from other classes or spear lunge

30k and above requires 80-100 attributes and a well refined venier

both fencer and doppels require you to invest a lot of silver to make them strong.

#1536

Prolly needs lolo for 90k ( pretty sure i saw that guy using one) most likely a hoppi fencer(self debuff) (or was it glass moles ¯ \ (O_O) / ¯) this days people hate to share their builds

#1537

Where did you see it?

#1538

I’d like to know the strongest because ill invest all my silver =x

#1539

Inven. KTOS forums /20char

#1540

yeah, it might be hoplite, I remember when epee garde was first introduced it had 0 cd, perfect for hoplite builds.

#1541

Today doenst worth fencer + hop?

#1542

it works but you can’t use spear lunge twice in a row with epee garde anymore

#1543

So i think it doenst worth =s

#1544

Did you realized you will die alot in new maps and even in new wbs?
Walking around with no def and no properly support maybe frustating.

#1545

Interesting discussion.
So what were mentioned here:

  • It’s necessary for Physical class (Any) to get Crit % Chance to value =< 50%

BTW here is formula for DEX getting 50% chance: 50/(42/[Your Level]) - ([Bonus Critical Rate] + [Bonus DEX]) + [Average Critical Resistance]= Total DEX required.
Where:

  • [Your Level] obviously your level

  • [Bonus Critical Rate] plain Critical Rate bonus provided by Green Gems, Sissels, e.t.c. So if you plan your stats, take equipment to the account.

  • [Bonus DEX] plain DEX bonus from Boss Cards, Max Petamion, e.t.c

  • [Average Critical Resistance] average for current Bosses/Players CON/Crit Resist, so for now i would take it as a 100.
    So to have 50% on level 330 with 2xSissel, 3x6* Green Gems you need:
    50/0.127-(180+14)+100 = 299.7 so it’s 300. But all of us would like to have new Solmiki equips as Rings/Necklace. So you need to fill missing 40-(37x2+14) = 48 Crit Rate

  • STR even with +10% Scale from Rank and bonus points by itself can’t compete with Transcendence scaling.

  • So having DEX in favor for 50% Crit you need to invest to counter DEX stat and it happens that CON is a counter stat due to Critical Resistance and Max HP scaling.
    (CON x 85) bonus to Max HP, so basically it can be treat as DEF/MDEF but in greater scaling.

  • Tree of Saviour Rank 8 is about tree of DEX/CON ?
    Coz i can’t see myself investing in-to something else with more rewarding results.

P.S.: does [Glass Mole] cards stacks ?

#1546

With DOV 10 stacks you still have:

  • 15% full plate damage reduction bonus
  • Max HP, +85 per CON
    Get DEX to 350 values and other points to CON what will result in ~30k HP without equips and gems.
#1547

Yes. Every slap 4k hp.
Oh man, Rugal :astonished:

#1548

Yeap, still hurts. Don’t use DOV, with transcendance stage 6 you still can deal great damage.

#1549

Maybe i missing something but i can rarely see monster not from ET that has more then 2k pattack/mattack with level 280-325

#1550

No, you’re missing everything. Since a mob with base 1k+ pattack/mattack can hit 3k easy.

Everybody can afford a transcendance stage 6 nowdays?

#1551

With skills for sure, with basic attack not so.

No, but as a DOV user you should.
Lower level grind location + Saalus missions will help you.
Let me remind it’s an Korean MMO, so yeah.