HAHAHA THANKS FOR THIS GIF, I ENJOYED IT.
its funny when u see it without the voice chat and whats going on actually.
Rank 1/2 constantly, Doppel has amazing x4 attack speed on Lvl.10 DoV and Quicken.
Screw those who plays Doppel and decided DoV is useless, they are not playing Doppel correctly and not utilizing the OP skill DoV fully =)
Nizael, u should realize by now Elzeraus is a troll, lmao. With no supporting statements and Evidence and only know how to insult ppl.
How did u know that O-O???
Lul
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I agree with you DOV is extremely critical to Dopple builds but that is only on Max min / Risk reward factor. How do you choose to utilize it is 1 issue.
In group play there should be minimal impact to permanent on it due to fact.
Most Clerics builds will be able to keep Dopple alive like it or not. Unless they are full DPS cleric / bokor or Div Druids.
Just that i donāt agree with certain that tell me frenzy and war cry are useless add on to DOV.
With new Frenzy and Warcry buffed if they ever read the change logs. That is a free nearly 800-1k Physical from that. on 100% DOV
It would means you hit alot way harder than you are doing with just AA or even say skills. that is literally having a Additional Weapon add on to yours.
Daino is cheap just get them -__-ā¦
I can tell u for now R7, Frenzy and Warcry is ignored because Helm Chopper, Cleave, Seism + Pouncing = 45 points
But in R8, Helm Chopper 15 will become futile (Replaced by Zwerchhau), replacing it with Warcry/Frenzy by then will be much more useful (but unable to use in a proper party).
The same as low ranking attack skills like Double Slash is useless later on, but buffs like Gungho and Restrain will always remain useful because they can be used before-hand.
Heres some more important facts,
In an actual party for example ET, the 8 buffs are
Daino -
Haste, Quicken, DoV, Diving Might, Blessing, Gungho, Concentrate, Revive.
We still have Stone skin, Bloodletting, Healing Factor, Sacrament not in used.
Thats why subpar buffs like Frenzy, Warcry, Aspersion, Archer buffs will become stupidā¦
Thatās definitely. In the end IMC did say. R 1- 5 will end up as filler.
So technically that is future proof, well i canāt say much if people like to use skill reset pots. i am more of a ālesser spenderā
btw you can make +6 - 11 daino scrolls 
It just depends if you are willing to spend on it. Level 5 is + 6 and itās often in the market in every server. Definitely more than enough to fit in your base + token + 1 upgrade (7) + 6
Still i donāt get the dex vs str debate here is clearly.
Donāt Add fully to each and balance them for Max Min. To get the Crit rate you want offsetting which ever you lack with items.
Either route to the end it is never cheap.
My point was STR gives more than DEX for a swordsman =)) (DoV, 30% additional phy attack from STR and so), there is no arguement for it lol when Archers doesnt get 30% more dmg from STR and Swordsmen does.
Thats why if one wants to play Doppel and truly wanan focus on winning the DPS race, clicking STR and get DEX related items gives more value
But for some fked up reason, some ppl gets so annoyed when their FULL DEX build got criticed, they back it up with arguements like ACCURACY AND DODGE is god stats!..erm Hitting ppl in PVP, dodging monster so repair less, DoV is crap dont add the defense is good, add full dex so u can crit 100% to all mobs (like wth? nobody realize the higher lvl u go the less crit rate u get xD?, not to mention monster resistance wil keep hiking, there wont be a fix crit percentage) like wtf lol.
While they unable to provide any videos or screenshots to backup their defends, all i get is āu noob u thrash u stupid u retardā, while I am here on the top in my server, lul.
And the Daino scrolls, if it adds 3 more buff slots, it will be Sacramento, Stone Skin and most likely Healing Factor because u r the melee, u stilll cant see Warcry buff being inside unless the buff slot is unlimited.
Isnāt this topic becoming a war on a whole?
I believe dopple having ācrit gear/dex gear is better on the straight forward handā
Even Fencers donāt build full DEX. For very much reasons. high dex is enough. People are forgetting how the stats build work here. This is not RO bois where you can just cap out one stat and add in a sub stat.
Not to forget Swordsman scale extremely poor to DEX, Swordmands does not benefits additionally from dex. Unlike Archers who gain extra evasion and crit from level / dex.
Soloing is nearly impossible later on we all know that and face it magic damage is ridiculous. Unless you are playing bokor train or something. LEL.
Dex does help survive physical damage but that will mean you are trading max min damage for surviving early. I donāt think evading spiral arrows are a thing or heavy hitting blows when you can offset them with 1 damage per arrow instead through Defense. u still have that 15% check to get through and might die from that.
There is also a cap to PVE evasions any way at 85%? Unless you are full con wiz. Disregard that broken shiet but you can laugh at them at r8.
Even dragoon capping out dex will make them look funny at max min.
Imo there is a cut off of how much crit vs str stat and balance of Con will be the best.
Daino doesnāt add only 3 isnāt it. It adds up to 6 to 11. 3 just means that it is a level 2 scroll lol.
Any way looking at the system. Do not mix PVE with PVP. sloel
As for buff slot ever seen Priest/Chap + Chrono + thau +Diev/PD + Muskeeter steriod.
I have been there and see that daino is working as intended + 8 buff daino
that is to mean my Priest is base (5+ 1 token+1 upgrade class) + 8 from daino
That is to say. Divine Might, Sac, Last rite , Monstrance, Blessing, Revive, stone skin , Haste, Quicken, swell brain , left arm , right arm, Aspellegum , Healing Factor. Is up together at one point. Aspersion is shiet when you have 220 plates / VVV armors.i still have a single slot.
Tl;DR daino is working as intended and it goes up to +11 for level 10 scroll and + 16 for scroll 15 and 17 with divine might on Krivis 3.
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Thats new info, will look into it, thanks.
Hahaha , nah i was being sarcastic on my reply you see we all know that getting a cube in wb is a competition and there is no way anyone would backdown over it even if you ask everyone present during the time a wb appears to do so rofl
If i may, those elements are made āstand-aloneā, in which what these āSTATā Benefits alone, to put it Simply, Overall in general, DEX gives you better options than STR because of these FACTS on what we currently have.
Monster Block Rate shouldnāt really be there, since there are very Few monsters with ridiculous block rate, not a single WB do blocks anyway. but for the sake of STR fanatics, i did include it. i disregard MDEF, MATK and M.AMP for monster since itās not even relevant to STR/DEX.
Those stats are locked of what we currently have. much like the Fact that Less monsters do Block, making STR not of that much value for increasing Block penetration (For PvE, phy. atk disregard on topic), the same issue goes for DEX, which most monsters can be hit without investing in DEX, heck, even monster who uses EVASION can be hit. and thatās the sh*tty reality right?
Now, if the future content would make something about these freaking useless good-for-nothing monsters. STAT allocations might play a better role. other than just icing on the cake. where Attributes, Gears and Skill base damage extremely shadows STAT points.
Edit 1: Pardon for the Vid, i just can help but to add it as commercialā¦ LOOOOOOOL
Credits to sunhwa btw.
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I dont even understand what langauge it is but the subs are fkin on point lol vids like these make my everyday life refreshing lolol
Keep 'em coming rofl
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OOOOOOOOOOOK
Lvl 300+ monsters are hiting HAAAARD AS FCK, so going full evasion (even if the dmg is lower than STR) CAN be a good thing if we donāt find a way to deal with the high dmg.
buuuuuuuuuuut we will need to wait and see, i have 2 stats reset waiting for it xD
really, i saw 1 magic mob one shoting a high CON tankā¦ and physical ones hiting 2k+
buuuut lets wait and seeā¦
Not even buffed 1k PDefend? @_@. Now i am curious. As for the magic Mobs yea i kinda agree Magic hits way too hard for weird reasons.
well i didnāt see the guys stats, thats why ill wait and thats why i have reset potions xD
Well if they are using Plate against physical should be still acceptable considering 200-300 damgae per hit well pardoners will be useful here to be buying for 50% addition pdef to reduce damage mabbe by 1/4
I can see the need for a little con to offset getting one shotted [room for mistakes to be made].
Gotta think of ways to mitigate that magic damage or at least cut them to the point it is no longer a heavy concern without sacrificing dps gears