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Suggestions & Alternatives to the Gachapon

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#44

Guess I’ll post the suggestion here since here is more appropriate than the gachapon reaction thread.

Suggestion to upgrade and expand on the gachapon idea.

Think of the successful “gachapon” in the world and why it is so widely popular, Kinder Surprise. To those who don’t know what it is (since it is banned in US until recently I think), it is basically a hollow chocolate egg which has a surprise toy within it.

One thing in which the chocolate egg has is the concept of value which is tied to it. The consumer gets a base minimum value on purchasing the egg, which is the chocolate itself. So, even if the “surprise toy” within it isn’t to the consumer’s liking, they still get something of value out of it.

So come to ToS Gachapon. If the consumer (us) rolls upon it and gets apples or kits, it will leave many to perhap all of us fuming as the value of the apples clearly aren’t worth the 30TP price tag, moreover based on the ratio breakdown by @thebloodyaugust those apples + repair kits constitutes at least 1/3 of the chances.

So what IMC can do, is to package the gachapon item with other items.

Create this ‘Gachapon Egg’ which contitutes of the following @ 40TP (values and items to be tweaked):

  • 4x Soul Crystals
  • 4x Megaphone
  • 1x Enchant Scroll
  • 1x Gachapon Egg

This package gives a base perceived value of 30TP based on items alone, and the ‘random surprise’ constitutes to an additional 10TP which is not too bad for something extra on the fun side.

With this the gachapon will be more welcomed than the version now to the international audience, and the items which are paired with it are useful for every character which will likely to generate sales too.

#45

kinder surprise~

yey~

should include ingame rares into gatcha like bb, animus etc

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#46

That will be too much, becomes P2W since top game items become ‘buyable’ through in game shop.

#47

if rng for daily-effort rushing dun is acceptable

why is rng in exchange for my hard-earned money is not.

people complain gatcha coz the reward is not rewarding enough.

might as well put in Stat Reset 0.5% rate in gatcha~

#48

Really reminds me of RO’s monthly lucky boxes.
With enough money power, you can obtain a nice item.

TOS lucky box is a rotten lucky egg.
RNG for a cosmetic item?..Are they not making enough money off regular costumes?

#49

Not really. Let me cross post

#50

No one alive is stupid enough not to recognize cash milking when they see it.

No one wanted this system.

Most of us are against it.

IMC won’t listen, because money > our opinion.

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#51

superior warrior necklace (7 days) (str+20, dex+20, con+20, magic def+85) - 65 exchange coins
superior magician necklace (7 days) (pdef+85, int+20, con+20, spr+20) - 65 exchange coins
superior health bracelet (7 days) (con+45) - 45 exchange coins
superior psychic? bracelet (7 days) (spr+90) - 45 exchange coins

They are doing that anyway. These are BIS for many classes.

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#52

I think a balanced solution would be:

  • Cosmetic only items from the cubes.
  • Allow previous rotation but not newest costume sets be brought through the exchange at a small premium.
  • Sell the newest costumes directly for TP, not through gacha.
#53

Thats how they plan to do it already. Alot of us HATE that because the exchange store forces us to buy gacha cubes. Put them in the ■■■■■■■ tp store thats why we have it.

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#54

Read the last line august… I put up dots… Unless that still needs clarified… I’ll reword it…

#55

I did. And my point still holds we have the TP store for cosmetics, put the cosmetics in it.

I understand what your saying your talking about a rotation.

AND

What im saying is we have to stop compromising with stupid (IMC). We need to do what did during beta and burn the forums and make them give us what we want because they obviously don’t understand their customers.

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#56

I think they want the gamblers mechanic in. As much as they will upset some. That solution lets players buy the newest with TP. Or buy the older with exchange. So you can always have the option of getting the items just by spending a set amount rather then relying on solely on RNG.

#57

In your proposed option, not theirs. Also your option forces new players to buy gachas to get old costumes. Heaven forbid anyone new comes to this game.

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#58

Alternative suggestions is the name of this thread.

I agree with that it has a learning curve to it. New players will be confused by the gacha system. May not notice the exchange… May just keep buying cubes trying to get what they want.

#59

If IMC wants more money they should fix the game to get players back, more players = more purchases. That should be their solution not milking the remaining until they quit. Seriously we still see bugs that we had in beta…

Don’t get me wrong short term the gachas are brilliant for money milking. But ultimately gonna cause more harm than good.

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#60

Well… They could just shutdown for two years like FFXIV did and fix everything. But I don’t know if that’s financially practical for them or not.

And I do agree practices like Gacha are brand damaging.

#61

Yea i thought of that a few times. And honestly i wish they would. But they are likely not big enough to afford it, like you mentioned.

At this point i just hope the game crashes and they sell the licensing to a more competent company. Issue with that idea being, who would want to touch it now?

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#62

I’m not sure I would want that… Mythos comes to mind as a sold IP that just went to complete waste afterward…

I’d rather IMC struggle through it as best they can… I wouldn’t be against a short shutdown and rework. If they can’t then just do their best to improve as times goes on while putting out new content(not easy).

#63

Even Sir August is now speaking like a doom knight, this is amazing.

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