Oh man this is TRAGIC. Hahahahaha
Some of you people are serious aren’t you?
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Just look at all the bad reviews from it… It wouldn’t take much time until the ship turns upside down.
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What sucks is I’m probably one of those white knights. Because I love the game and will stay with the ship even if she sinks to the bottom of the sea.
But I agree it was a very stupid move to restrict the players as an attempt to stop the bots. Common sense says that you remove the bots without impacting your players.
It’s like you have a really fu**ing annoying itch on your arm. Common sense says to remove the itch; IMC says to remove the arm.
Restricting players from what has become the bare essentials, the expected conveniences, in nearly every game isn’t a good idea. Sure, I bet it makes the rmt bots jump a few hoops, but it makes the players angry enough to leave.
Aside from that, it’s a beta, so I’m not sweating the bugs etc. I trust they’ll get everything in order.
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You guys must not have a lot of experience in MMOs because limiting trades to premium paying players is not a new practice.
PSO2 does this and they make money hand-over-fist from their players, it’s one of the most popular F2P mmos and definitively is the most popular one in Japan.
To me this is nothing new. If you like the game enough, pay for it. Not everything in life is free.
theres been a few people intentionally screwing the ratings and reviews… they been doing it since last year
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Please don´t try to defend this mess, i love the game too but let´s be real…The game right now is a joke!
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There’s a key phrase there though, “Japan”. This isn’t Japan, this isn’t Korea, this isn’t even China. This is a western release for EU, NA and SEA where we don’t accept those types of freemium ideals.
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It’s a sign that you think way more of yourself than you should if you extrapolate your opinion across the entirety of “the west”.
I personally don’t mind it at all.
i’ve played hundred of MMO’s and i can’t think of a f2p game where trade is restricted like this…
Black Desert Online does it, but it does it for everyone. It actually wants to stop RMTs. ToS however charges you to trade because they want more money out of you.
When players support this… it’s like where does it end for these people? In a few years from now will joining parties be a paid feature? Making a guild? Using shout chats? What other basic social features can we put behind paywalls?
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No one cares that the trade is restricted to p2p people. It’s the added restrictions and hoops that are making people hate it.
Well you see what you say does make sense, but it’s pretty obvious it’s infact you who’s putting their own opinion above that of everybody else. It’s not hard to get the general consensus by just looking at the forums and seeing the sheer amount of people complaining about trading restrictions.
Now i’d rather not start another ‘debate’ on the forums about trading. If you insist on white knighting I suggest you look elsewhere, this is a thread about bad steam reviews and not just the trading afterall.
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A lot of people would disagree.
I mostly see people arguing against the bigger problems. I’d say, also, having trade between two pairs with only one token between them would be more ideal, too, but it’s more the combination of so many restrictions that makes the whole thing fall apart. Hi again. :B you’re fun to discuss with.
Most of the bad reviews are literally:
“Omg it says free to play but you have to pay for early release, I am disappointed because they lied”
I honestly think people with 0.0hr or 0.1hr of gameplay shouldn’t be able to “review” a game.
That’s like me reviewing a product I have never used before from Amazon.
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Yeah, I mean those kids just don’t understand how amazing imc is and how they’ve been so amazing at listening to feedback /s
To everyone else: As I always say, “like” the game. Don’t “like” the company. Don’t make that mistake.
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About half of those ratings really are from f2p kids who cannot stomach the idea of spending money on their games, or the idiots who couldn’t read the store page and thought the game was out when it wasn’t. These don’t count because the people who voted for these don’t count as people.
The other half have legitimate claims, such as enchant scrolls being actual p2w, the servers being smouldering wrecks, too much of the staff taking a long weekend on launch week with game-breaking problems on live, the chat being being decimated by a combination of spam and the least resource-efficient text engine I have ever seen in an MMO (and I’m one of those 20 mmo years graybeards), and of course the bot issue.
I wasn’t going to call them out for a bad launch, as they seemed quite active in attacking problems until friday night.
You can’t send all of your staff home on weekends in MMOs. You can’t even send most of them home for launch weeks. Nobody does this! This is why! MMOs are nurseries - you leave the babies unattended for a weekend and THEY. ALL. F****NG. DIE!
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Fairly large topics. The great majority of players dislike trades being behind a paywall in addition to the restrictions. It’s that, the bugs and server issues that have contributed to the bad reviews and I am almost positive that Tree of Savior will be “Somewhat Negative” by tomorrow.
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I don’t know what the bigger problem is.
I’m having a blast so far.
Currently level 111 and Adventure Journal rank 26, also got a ton of exp cards left.
Did that while most of you were busy complaining.
Sure, it lags at times, but usually it runs fine for me, even coming from EU.
I wonder:
Did the korean community on kTOS also complain this much when they got access to the game?
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