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@Staff_Max, Un-ban me

@Sayurichan it will be better to stop wasting your precious brain-cells to talk sense to OP.

@daays IMC has already stated clearly that “automating certain actions within the game that violate normal gameplay mechanics” is bannable offense. What you are arguing here is the classification of the word “bot”. Yes a macro isn’t like a bot which has some form of AI which detects and chooses a choice in which the pattern matches.

However a chain of macros that simulate button/key/mouse movement and presses can be stringed together to run indefinitely. This allows the user to AFK while the “simple script” runs itself over and over again to progress the character along, like a poorly done BOT with only 1 option/choice to do.

IMC banned you for using automation to play their game. Both BOTs and chained MACROs that can iterate itself fall under that category.

Hope this is clear to you, I really don’t know what you are trying to justify. To prove that macros technically isn’t a bot?

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Oh man i was training my dog to play for me whem i sleep.
No more botdogges, wow.
:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Just got to the forum to see anything new.

Just in time. Lol

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Do you just intentionally gloss over the fact that Staff_Max didn’t ban Momohime, who was botting directly in front of him the entire time?

The entire point of this thread is to show his incompetence.

These situations are easy to handle.

You either perma ban both, or you do the more intelligent thing and have different penalties for offenders.
First time offense? 24 hour ban, notice of why, link to ToS.
Second offense? 1-4 week ban, notice of why, link to ToS.
Third offense? GG wp.

Simple.

Instead I get perma banned, while Momohime keeps farming in front of him.

Do you know for sure you are perma banned? The message doesn’t list duration but supposedly first time bans last 30 days

Warn botters that they were spotted?

Why not 10 times then? From 5 minutes to 1 month.

And botting always was perma-bannable.

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I sure do give a ■■■■ - I was just on vacation.

Common sense dictates that they have no ways to tell a click/move macro from a crappy bot really.

I would suggest IMC makes a clear statement on what is/isn’t allowed (macros that move vs holding down the key) - but as far as I can tell from what I read its NOT okay - nor really is that attitude.

Good luck in the future tho.

Dude is mad he got caught cheating. Deal with it. This is literally the exact same as botting.

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Short story, He says:

“My macro is simple. I run to 4 different points over the course of 2mins. If someone wanted to mess with my farm, they could. A simple icewall would mess my pathing up and I wouldn’t be getting any kills.”

Thats a pseudo bot…

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Your ban was inevitable. Even if you hadn’t been reported directly by this guy, you’d have been flagged by enough people eventually to be banned automatically, because what you’re doing is blatantly botting. “No I was just using macros”, what do you think a bot is, some complicated AI? It’s just a set of waypoints and a simple script telling it to smack things and use abilities when available. You just go one step short of that and let your summons do the work for you. It’s still receiving benefits from not playing the game.

Honestly I don’t think you’re stupid enough to really be mad about being banned for botting, I think you’re just mad because you believed you were being clever enough to circumvent it. You weren’t, sorry.

“I saw that other guy rob a bank, so I figured I could just go rob the bank next door since the cops should be trying to catch that first bank robber!”

Sorry that isn’t a logical conclusion to make.

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I like how in all your pseudo intellectual response, you failed to understand the issue at hand.

Here I’ll bullet point:
:diamonds:Blanket statement on 3rd party scripts.
:diamonds:GM’s banning randoms, since they don’t have software to detect bots
:diamonds:Your report bot function does nothing
:diamonds:Me getting rekt while at the same time, the GM not banning the most well known botter on Klapedia. Even though that bot was botting directly in front of him.

I’m not mad. I wasn’t trying to be clever. Just pointing out that this GM is an ape.

@daays You’re pretty foolish. Raging at the people who disagree with you isn’t going to change your situation. You know exactly why you got banned and your arguments against it make zero sense.

You don’t think you should be banned for using these macros because you weren’t banned for using them in other games? That’s great… but this is a different game with different rules.

You don’t think you should be banned because there’s a bot that hasn’t been banned yet? There are a lot of bots who haven’t been banned yet. You simply got caught first. Once again, this doesn’t explain why you should be unbanned.

What you described yourself doing is botting. It doesn’t matter whether you’re selling the silver or using it.

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None of what you said made any sense.

Here answer this question. It’s very simple.

If @Staff_Max banned me for botting, why didn’t he ban Momohime, who was botting directly in front of him. Who has been reported by everyone. Who has farmed $87MM silver with the chaplain bot and counting.

Momohime is just a more clever cheater than you are. Learn2Cheat lol

This … lol… he’s just like avidity rofl

@daays no matter how you try to explain it, what you did is botting simple as that.
Like I said I doubt you’ll get unbanned since there was a concrete evidence that you we’re automating actions., if you got 30 days ban as a warning then lucky for you, but if you got perm ban then I bid you farewell… say hello to @Avidity for me lol.

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Should have DL’d that bot from Ownedcore and used my obvious not a bot chaplain AI.

If @Staff_Max banned me for botting, why didn’t he ban Momohime, who was botting directly in front of him. Who has been reported by everyone. Who has farmed $87MM silver with the chaplain bot and counting