Hi guys,which class is a good synergy with SR?
QS,Ranger,etc? and now with the recent nerf in running shots, I’m not sure what to take. I want this build to goes with R8 too but I’m having a hard time if I should go SR3 in R8 or not. Also is SR viable for ET?
Qs3 or ranger 3 are the only paths you can take. Maybe wugu. SR3 will be kind of a must. Yes, you can do et.
What’s ups and downs between QS3/Ranger3? what should I take for R5?
R5 could be archer 2 or rouge, i prefer archer 2. Pros of ranger 3: steady aim (recently nerfed in ktos, they got our version), all the skill can be use while mount, less ping dependent. Cons: a little boring, some difficult to bossing.
Pros qs3: more mobility, more fun, you can solo a lot of things. Cons: ping dependent, deploy passive dismount you (but maybe u never will use it).
Ranger 3
Steady Aim
All skills can be used while mounted
Difficulty to bossing
QS 3
Mobility
Able to solo
Conclusion Ranger3 has more damage but less mobility than QS? Both are viable for ET?
Yes, the average damage of ranger reiter is a little more with retreat. Both can do et. There is a famous video of team clearing et floor 20 with a ranger reiter. However, that was made based on a very optimal setup:
- Lettargy debuff, which double your retreat shot
- Meltis, which allows you to mantain retreat shot up 100% of the time
- This was before the steady aim nerf. That’s really hurts ranger. Nowadays most people just take r1 for others classes. Not worth r3 anymore.
- Godlikes items. +17 Manamana and other stuffs.
What do you mean by nerf? how does it hurt ranger?
so ranger isn’t worth for r3?
people only take ranger1 for OTHER classes, they still take ranger3 for SR though - the meta shifted to ranger1 archer2 scout1 after the steady aim nerf for other builds but SRs can not stealth while mounted so it eliminates the meta for them, its still just qs3 or rng3, either works, pros and cons of both already listed everywhere
Ranger3 still good for SR or Rogue or Some future build (some class like Hakkapalle) it just not good for fletcher build that’s all.
Is QS still good for future build?
Running shot disables Retreat shot in the new patch and vice versa, so i think QS3 isnt viable anymore
A2-R3-SR3 fits much better now
Is getting a rougue1 instead of A2 better?
Rogue1 is a nice idea theorically, but in practical you need to always be in position behind the target to use sneak hit while when you use retreat shot you should move in the opposite direction of the target, making it to dont have sinergy.
We have the feint+barrage combo also but we cannot use feint while mounted, so we need to check if the evasion boost + 25% crit rate boost + heavy shot + multishot 10 are better than the 2 rogue skills in terms of sinergy.
Also capture and vendetta cannot be used while mounted too, we ends only with sneak hit that i think dont goes nice with retreat shot (if i’m wrong please correct me)
I think that QS3 is still not too bad for the SR build even we cant use the combination of ReS and RS. You can use each skill when another is cool down. Think of a good way, you will use those skills almost all the time.
Ranger3 is for pure aoe in ET, good damage with retreat shot but a lot of downtime.
QS3 is a farming/pvp variation for SR2. Your retreat shot is slightly weaker, but it’s still strong enough for you to clear mobs quickly and provides you a lot of utility that is not available in ranger (pavise for aggroig mobs, running shot for fast farming, stone shot + caltrops for cc).
Is Ranger not suitable for PVP also? by downtime you mean cd correct?
it’s because steady aim correct? if yes steady aim has 45% + attack, I think that’s a lot.
So ranger for AOE and QS for single target?
Steady Aim is only 20%, don’t get your facts mixed up.
And Ranger is complete hot trash in PvP.
The way I see it, SR is a 3 circle or nothing class, no musketeer/cannoneer/hackapell/mergen whatever. You’re not going to get anything out of just 1 or 2 circles of SR. Most usual build go with A2-QS3 or A2/Rogue-Ranger 3, there are some more unusual builds that has wugushi or fletcher or even sapper in it but they are mostly meh … dismounting and mounting is nothing but annoying.
I like how everyone is like “hurr durr Qs3 is now useless for sr2 cos can’t use 2xRS together” nowadays. IIRC, that was an error and wasn’t meant to be that way, and I play QS3 with the mentality that it would be fixed one day and till now it has no huge impact on my dps and I still love my qs3, I just alternate between each skill and throw in a CF or any other skill in the short down time. If one is really such a meta skirt chaser, just pick ranger3 and you get more “AOE” along with Steady Aim which will strengthen all your skills across all trees but you just do not have the mobility of QS3’s running shot.
I saw in the simulator and it’s 45% though. I might be wrong.
So ranger sucks at PVP?
so running shot is what best in QS3. I assume the SP consumption is a lot less than Ranger3?
It’s only 20% and yes, QS3 has overall lesser SP consumption than Ranger as it’s not a skill based class.
Running Shot is the main dish but you also get caltrops which reduce enemy mov spd, rapid fire which debuffs crit resistance and pavise has situational uses for well, blocking (it unmounts you though) and stone shot can stun. It’s definitely the more PVP oriented choice but it alone won’t make you great at PVP. If your emphasis is more in PVP, you might be better serve looking elsewhere than SR2.