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I suggest Linker 2 instead of Thaum 1.

If you have a good weapon, full SPR will be good to make summon strongest. Featherfoot can be strong without any INT, just a good weapon.

If you have a bad weapon, full INT will give more total damage than mixing SPR and INT. But summon will be weak.

Full SPR still gives weak summon :’(

It takes ~8s to do a full combo rotation on mirtis, and it’s my go-to bossing card. I hop on, use the 2nd skill (100%x8), and then the third skill (350%x3), and then by the time all the casting animations are done the 2nd skill is off cd again so I use it again before hopping off.

In total, it should be 2650% damage with mirtis on a 30 second cooldown, which is stronger than evocation at least lol. Only bad part is riding is kinda dangerous now without the additional defense, and the damage is calculated with your summon’s damage, which is super gear dependent.

@Valentine

Is it worth changing the hunting ground items total glove/boot/top/bottom tht gives 56 spr ?

Currently using virtov top/bottom lv7 yellow , lolo glove , hasta boot lv7 blue

Idk :x

I want tauma just because of the combo transpose+bloodcurse rather than by the buffs

and is also a good class for drop (i think)

300 spr (from 7 to 307) kinda doubles your Summon damage.
If I’m not tripping. 56 SPR will be a little less than a +30% damage increase. I could be wrong as hell but w/e.

you are more than wrong lmao :joy:

@Jaddin

56 SPR is good. Those items are pretty rare and expensive though, so whether or not you think it’s worth it is up to you. If you’re considering buying those items (which people are apparently selling for around 7mil+ price range for each item), I would say don’t buy. If you farmed it yourself and you’re considering keeping or selling, I’d personally keep it.

In the end, you’d get a lot more damage for your silver if you invested in blessed shards for transcendence or mats for a better weapon.

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Just the gem part concerns me , lv7 gem T.T

Telsiai ppl are selling em around 1m-2m , 4m at max :o

How do buffs carry over when riding anyway? The 50% demon scaling is from weapon right? Not your matk stat. So stuff like [swell left arm] or [swell right arm] wouldn’t affect demon riding damage right? What about [blessing] [sacrament] [enchant fire] [enchant lightning] being added on top of riding damage?

Anyway I’m thinking of going with this build + a TS. I did not know ff1 gives 100% uptime decay.

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@Valentine u prob hate seeing my name tagging u for question everytime by now xD

But but , i reset to Cyro2 Kino Sorc3 Enchanter =o

I know Cyro3 helps alot but IW/PP with full spr Enchant Lightning during bossing =o

Whatcha opinion senpai ?

(Pyro3 Thau3 Enchanter full spr buff is so nice , lowkey wondering if Pyro2 Thau3 Sorc Enchanter works or not)

Does any1 know or tried if summon hit more when mobs are shrinked by thauma ?

Kinda ridiculous how Pyro3 can do 100k+ dmg in hunting ground while Sorcerer do 30k at most lol

No stats carry over when riding. Your summon’s damage remains 50% of your weapon. If you get the riding attribute, then your summon’s skills do more damage by the % of the attribute, but it seems they’ve reworked that attribute so that your magic damage doesn’t affect it.

nah it’s fine.[quote=“Jaddin, post:2242, topic:188142”]
Cyro2 Kino Sorc3 Enchanter =o

I know Cyro3 helps alot but IW/PP with full spr Enchant Lightning during bossing =o
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You could honestly drop to Sorc2 and keep cryo 3. Sorc3 doesn’t do much, and a lot of people who are taking sorc3 either are preparing for upcoming buffs to sorc (unpredictable, can’t really prepare), or they just love sorc that much and built around it a lot. You’re building around ice wall, so I don’t think you need to worry about sorc3.

I guess one thing to keep in mind is that you will have a hard time using that IW+PP combo for a lot of bosses. It has a long cooldown because of ice wall, you need to position the ice walls and yourself correctly (but some bosses move around so much), and you don’t have surespell so if they touch you the slightest your combo is ruined.

I’d love that build except that it would be so much more fun with sorc2. You could maintain the same emphasis of support while keeping sorc a central focus of your support oriented build by using linker instead of Thau, since you can take linker earlier on and you don’t necessarily need linker 3.

It would look something like:
Pyro>Linker2>Sorc2>Filler>Enchanter.

Filler can be linker 3, thaum1 (mostly for shrink body/swell body), sorc3.

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God bless u , having ur response gives so much thoughts through out of these

Last thing i wanna ask (for now LOL)

Does swell/shrink mob boost summon dmg as well? :o

What about Pyro - Link - Sorc3 - Thau2 ? (shrink/swell/reversi)

Sorry im really stubborn with sorc3 cuz its bae xD

Going off what Valentine already said, Pyro2/Sorc2/Thau3 is exactly the build I run on my main lmao. You can swap Pyro2 for Linker1/Pyro1 if you want more utility, personally I just like watching things burn. But Thau3 works really nicely with Sorc because you can go all in SPR and get extra INT from Swell Brain to buff up your summon, and you don’t lose out on your own DPS from the lack of INT investment since you get a ton of extra damage from buffs. My build is basically centred around using my summon for steady damage while I concentrate on buffing/debuffing and laying down pyro skills while they’re off cooldown, I rarely have nothing to do since there’s a lot to cycle through and I can always hop on the summon for a skill or two if I manage to get everything on cd at once.

I haven’t tested shrink damage (swell damage stays the same, though you can inflict a debuff while it’s active if you have Swell Left Arm up, so summons can’t help with that), but I imagine since shrink is just a debuff on the mob summon damage should still be boosted by it.

As for Sorc3 as an option… I have to agree with Valentine, it’s really not in the best state right now. I originally wanted to go Sorc3 as well but changed my mind when the first rank reset event came around, all you really get out of it right now is a slightly stronger summon and 5 more bats. While both of those things are great to have, if you’re choosing between Thau3 and Sorc3 you’d be crippling yourself by picking Sorc over Thau’s buffs. I don’t think it would be a very wise choice, at least for that build in particular. You also have to remember that a Thau2’s buffs become useless if you run into a Thau3 in your party.

Pyro/Linker2/Sorc3/Enchanter might be a better choice, if you’re really set on Sorc3. Linker is still decent all-around support and Enchanter only has one rank so you don’t become obsolete with a second Enchanter in the group.

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@Jaddin
I agree with BlueFlewQueen. Pyro/Linker2/Sorc3/Enchanter sounds like a good build for you. But it does seem like you love Thaumaturge haha. Unfortunately, if you only go Thau2 then you risk losing 2 circles worth of skills if you end up in a party with a Thau3.

With enchanter, you can craft level 4 Joint penalty scrolls for 10.5k silver each, and then you will be able to use Joint Penalty two times! What’s even better is you can use one hangman’s knot for all those links, potentially letting you link up 12 enemies at once and exploding them (if you use an AoE move, the damage will be multiplied by 12 times!) This actually makes desmodus and evocation good for clearing, and even some summon skills do well with joint penalty.

Don’t waste them cause they’re expensive though lol.

But that build is really dependent on joint penalty, and you will only be able to make killing groups of mobs faster and will have trouble against unlinkable mobs or single targets.

Another good alternative to enchanter is sage simply because missile hole is excellent and the sage skills do good damage (especially with joint penalty).

If you really want Thau, the best option is to go thau3, which means you cannot have sorc3. Shrink and swell body mostly support party members, not your summon. But Shrink Body does make it easier to kill things, which indirectly helps you with things like riding.

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Do u guys know ive been having headaches over how to make this sorc3 happen x.x

Before sleep/wake i stress myself with it already due to the date ugh

I really appreciate every each and all of guys for ur input really

It helps alot , now i have to do the thinking and decision xD

LOL
I feel you…
The best 2 builds I could think of is Cryo3Sorc3 or Kino3Sorc3

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Does the defense increase while riding got removed or is it a bug? Or the damage we take is due to the new damage formula?

Spent almost the entire event trying out different builds for my Sorc3… What a headache. ="=
I was a Pyro2 Link Sorc3 Necro before the rebalance. I think swapping Necro for Sage works best for me now. It helps me stay alive while riding against archer/mage mobs. Ultimate dimension does great damage and can be used with fire pillar. As much I am tempted to go Pyro3, I don’t like how I lack in control without linker.

I loved Cryo3 Sorc3 as it is great to use for riding, but taking down bosses will take eternity (unless the OP ice wall + ice blast combo comes back haha). If you play with friends or fixed party, then this build is the best pick.

As much as I love Sorc3 (I love my 15 bats), I agree it is still weak; or I rather say got weaker after the patch. It takes a lot of SPR for your summon to have decent attack. From my test, it took Sorc2 170SPR to have the damage that I find decent while Sorc3 can do fine with 100SPR. However, it is still underwhelming compared to your other spells. If anyone wants to play sorcerer, C2 is enough. Taking it to C3 only if you really enjoy the class or just masochistic waiting for its rework. :sob: Cross fingers that imc is able to make Sorcerer right.

No more sorc test for me. I’m done. :sleepy:

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Thought it was bugged cause the riding buff icon still is there, but @Delcas says devs said they wanted to remove it because they didn’t think it was necessary anymore.