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Sooo yeaaaa.... that's a lot of cubes

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#123

Hmm, I think I remember this situation. You’re a chrono and he says he is wrong about your class that with the competition for boss that your class is really good however your friend is still not going to get in bossing parties. You asked for his opinion and he gave it.

Don’t ask for an opinion if you only want to hear an opinion you agree with. It kind of defeats the purpose.

Everyone is talking about world boss in the dungeon and so he showed his world boss drops since that is literally all he does.

He also says to all the people who want war you don’t even have guilds lmao :joy:

Also he says for all the people complaining try leveling a full support linker and have all of your party invites denied when trying to quest and level up.

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#124

So your go-to trick once again is trying to inject racism into a conversation that has nothing to do with it. I’m just waiting for you to bring up the holocaust as well because it seems like that’s all you’re good for. Making sensationalist claims and when you’re backed into a corner you scream “RACIST”. The entire conversation is open for people to see and not once did I allude to anything racial with the exception of when I replied to your claims.

I know it’s not fun being wrong and getting slapped around silly but it’s okay to admit you were in the wrong. You randomly playing the racism card actually detracts from and diminishes the progress that people who are fighting for it legitimately are struggling to make. So much for being progressive huh… You’re a social justice warrior and a horrible one at that.

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#125

Your not exactly throwing logical punches. Where as I am and your just brushing it off as “its justified so deal with it”

I’m no social justice warrior, but reminding people like you that your morally wrong is fine with me too. Accept your a terrible person and just go with “you can’t tell me what to do” like you’ve planned.

#126

Seeing as how many people dislike Jace I will now reveal some details about this party.

VeniVici and Mikoto are the main DPS of this party.
Mikoto, Stevess and Jace are all from Taiwan.
Mikoto and Stevess are not douchebags.

Jace is a complete douchebag that doesn’t like sharing timers (myself and many others used to put timers on the tosg spreadsheet until him and Courage created another private spreadsheet and don’t share those timers).

Jace, when he is the party leader and has 1 spot left, he rather leave that spot blank than invite some random player and give that player a cube.

Jace thinks that if more than 2 parties get cube drops, we somehow ‘failed’, we ‘lost’, he has the mentality of a teenage.

He is awful to play with, selfish, rude and very bossy.

Besides linking the party members, he does absolutely nothing in boss battles and can be replaced (and should be) by a better player.

This party started as random people just gathered around to kill bosses and evolved into this megalomaniac of a player that gloats and prances around getting cubes.

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#127

Hmm while I agree with a lot of what you say I have to disagree with the racism part. In that I don’t think he is trying to invoke it in the way you’re imagining.

He is making a good point about behavior even if contextually it is wrong. The ends justify the means is not always correct.

I think his heart is in the right place and has a bit more growing up to do. It would be wrong for us to penalize and scold people who want to see the world be better for everyone. :sunglasses:

SJW and Anti-SJW are both too sensitive and too dismissive of each other. I believe both have no place in an anime mmo

#128

What i think, Jace is still the winner in the end, he is still the person who owns 100 cubes (or even more), and we dont, and we are all just bitching about him here. he probably are not even aware this thread exist.

#129

Okay I’m sorry but this right here kind of disqualifies you from even claiming that you operate on logic. The logical leaps you take and connections you make are just about as logical as the sky is red. It’s not by the way. Just an FYI.

#130

Acting logical to be able to achieve your goal doesn’t often make someone a terrible person. What’s the point of making a boss hunting party if you’re not aiming to get any drops out of it in the first place?

It’s a competition situation and if you’re not maximizing your damage output while few other teams do, you’ll get nothing out of it. Or are you saying “participation and good feels is all that matters, not results” should be the goal for everyone playing this game? Some people just like to compete so why won’t you let them? Go form a party with those who don’t care that much about maximizing everything instead.

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#131

He says that his party was the one updating the spreadsheet and that permissions to who could edit it were changed. Not really anything sinister they just stopped letting him update it.

Look at what happened to the spreadsheet when they removed public updating. No one updated even the person who created it and made it private.

#132

Feel free to read back and tell me if I ever made that claim. As I said there is a time and place for everything and I even acknowledged that his point of view is valid in a lot of situations, just not all. I’m not anti-SJW. I’m more anti-stupidity and sensationalism. As always people are quite eager to dish out criticism and impart judgment but can’t handle it when they’re on the receiving end.

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#133

Probably a Gold seller.

#134

I’m just bored with nothing better to do since ToS is down.

#135

Lol thats a great idea. I dont know this guy, but if he looks down on people who he thinks has a bad build for boss hunting, lets see what he has to say about a pvp build thats made for player hunting :slight_smile:

They need to add a mechanic where if you kill someone during a war they drop some of their loot or something.

#136

Sorry I usually operate under the assumption people’s exacerbated statements like yours speak for themselves, of why its so wrong, when I separate it from the filler you have after it.

He made a good point that’s simpler for you to understand.

I actually don’t mind hearing criticism about myself, but when I’m actually pointing out things like, being elitist is not a “sometimes” that should be kept in mind and no one should encourage it because its morally wrong. Thats my side, and for morals sake yes I’m correct. Your side is without morals and again your just justifying it again with no reasoning at all behind it except for the results.

This isn’t opinion, I’m morally right, your not. I think we both can just leave it at that.

#137

Can’t agree anymore than this^. I’ve even witnessed when he would just stand there spouting his nonsense ego while being carried during the boss fight. Well nothing much can be done other than to advice ppl for being a victim to his dbag immature ego. :sweat_smile:
Sigh these kids need to grow up.

Make World Bossing Great Again
#138

At the end of the day this is how he plays and you should play your own way…

Or Ask the Devs to make these areas PVP Zones so parties can fight over the boss like the good old WoW days.

#139

That or simply make respawn time much more random so exploration and adventure is rewarding instead of everyone showing up last min to camp boss spawn spots. It can also give people that’s questing in the area the chance to party up and do the boss because there won’t be a lot of 100+ level players around to fight over it.

It won’t be a super lag fest during boss fights too.

#140

Then they’d switch from crying about “boo hoo they get the loot”
to “boo hoo they kill me at the boss monster”

#141

Ironically you are far more of an elitist than I am. Delusional and hypocritical also comes to mind. You seem to only take in and process information that coincides with your agenda. Cherry picking bits and pieces of information and twisting them around in your narrow mind to, here’s the kicker, justify your self-righteous crusade. My side is not completely devoid of morality but you’re choosing to view it that way because I’m not submitting and prostrating myself to yours. I’ll leave it the way I want to because you of all people will not speak for me. For all your false and misguided attempt at progressiveness you are very misinformed… Not to mention ignorant.

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#142

This. People who are capable of creating a character and party for boss hunting are also capable of creating one for pvp, or optimized hybrid for both jobs if it’s better choice instead of hiring another party for killing the other teams off.