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Sooo yeaaaa.... that's a lot of cubes

Feel free to read back and tell me if I ever made that claim. As I said there is a time and place for everything and I even acknowledged that his point of view is valid in a lot of situations, just not all. I’m not anti-SJW. I’m more anti-stupidity and sensationalism. As always people are quite eager to dish out criticism and impart judgment but can’t handle it when they’re on the receiving end.

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Probably a Gold seller.

I’m just bored with nothing better to do since ToS is down.

Lol thats a great idea. I dont know this guy, but if he looks down on people who he thinks has a bad build for boss hunting, lets see what he has to say about a pvp build thats made for player hunting :slight_smile:

They need to add a mechanic where if you kill someone during a war they drop some of their loot or something.

Sorry I usually operate under the assumption people’s exacerbated statements like yours speak for themselves, of why its so wrong, when I separate it from the filler you have after it.

He made a good point that’s simpler for you to understand.

I actually don’t mind hearing criticism about myself, but when I’m actually pointing out things like, being elitist is not a “sometimes” that should be kept in mind and no one should encourage it because its morally wrong. Thats my side, and for morals sake yes I’m correct. Your side is without morals and again your just justifying it again with no reasoning at all behind it except for the results.

This isn’t opinion, I’m morally right, your not. I think we both can just leave it at that.

Can’t agree anymore than this^. I’ve even witnessed when he would just stand there spouting his nonsense ego while being carried during the boss fight. Well nothing much can be done other than to advice ppl for being a victim to his dbag immature ego. :sweat_smile:
Sigh these kids need to grow up.

At the end of the day this is how he plays and you should play your own way…

Or Ask the Devs to make these areas PVP Zones so parties can fight over the boss like the good old WoW days.

That or simply make respawn time much more random so exploration and adventure is rewarding instead of everyone showing up last min to camp boss spawn spots. It can also give people that’s questing in the area the chance to party up and do the boss because there won’t be a lot of 100+ level players around to fight over it.

It won’t be a super lag fest during boss fights too.

Then they’d switch from crying about “boo hoo they get the loot”
to “boo hoo they kill me at the boss monster”

Ironically you are far more of an elitist than I am. Delusional and hypocritical also comes to mind. You seem to only take in and process information that coincides with your agenda. Cherry picking bits and pieces of information and twisting them around in your narrow mind to, here’s the kicker, justify your self-righteous crusade. My side is not completely devoid of morality but you’re choosing to view it that way because I’m not submitting and prostrating myself to yours. I’ll leave it the way I want to because you of all people will not speak for me. For all your false and misguided attempt at progressiveness you are very misinformed… Not to mention ignorant.

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This. People who are capable of creating a character and party for boss hunting are also capable of creating one for pvp, or optimized hybrid for both jobs if it’s better choice instead of hiring another party for killing the other teams off.

Wow, mostly insults. You’ve pretty much got nothing now I see. You can accept whatever you want though I suppose.

If your really that hurt about being such a terrible person, maybe next time word it so “a little bit of bias is ok because results matter” doesn’t come across like that.

self·ish
ˈselfiSH/Submit
adjective
(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one’s own personal profit or pleasure.

2/100.
50/1000.

Statistics.
100 trys isn’t enough.

You can get a good statistic finally, after doing 10k trys…

xD but yeah it’s rare.

You mean accurate and factual words which you found insulting because of how applicable they are to you?

I could care less about political correctness. You’re the kind of person who kicks and screams and advocates for every participant of any race and competition to be given a reward or a medal of participation just so people don’t feel bad. You are the champion of false sense of entitlement. You tout yourself as a shining beacon of morality but anyone who dares oppose your views is branded as wrong. Not different. Just wrong. You’re morally right and anyone who doesn’t agree with you is morally bankrupt and is destined for fire and brimstone. How very inclusive and understanding of you.

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I do. We really have nothing else to talk about except your insults now though. How mad you are isn’t really part of the discussion though. Could you take yourself elsewhere?

[quote=“serusalti, post:119, topic:217106”]Either you agree with my borderline elitist idealism or you’re a douchebag
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Well, it’s good that you say it for yourself. You couldnt have put your feelings on the matter clearer to read for us.

I know you’re not used to people calling you out for your flawed logic but I’m nowhere near mad or upset. I know that you only see the world in shades of emotions but I’m not mad. I simply believe that you’re a hypocrite, plain and simple. It is entirely possible for me to disagree with you and not be upset. Hard to believe right?

Also, I go where I please. So thanks, but no thanks.

Uhhh… Good for you? Do you want your participation medal too?

You can disagree all you want, the past few responses you’ve given have been “I’m pretty wrong, but garsh darn it if i dont lash out a bit before I leave”

You seem like puddy in my hands right now and I’m scared what I could do with it.

I’ll leave our conversation so you can breathe after you do your final lash out in your next response.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Like I said, it’s okay to admit you were wrong but if you’d rather try and feign control and superiority to help you cope with things hen by all means.

Hello guys! :smile:
I’m Eroc, the lead of Crimson, the guild which Jace is in currently.

I’ve been following this thread for a while now. At first, I don’t really want to reply. But I guess I need to address some things :

So some of you cap Jace as “toxic”, “elitist”, “unpleasant”.

“Elitist”? Sure, he mostly only recruit players who can work together with him in order for him to utilize his Linker c3 Umbilical Cord. He mostly spent his time with full STR and full DEX builds with 1 Cleric. And he will not hesitate to replace his party members with the new ones if the new ones are “better” in his opinion. Every player has different point of view about this. From the players who got replaced, of course it is a very harsh decision for Jace to remove them. However, Jace did that based on his logical thinking. Powerful DPS means easy cube drops. You should know that there are those kind of people who act based on logical thinking over emotional feelings.

“Toxic”? I admit he did sound rude when he said “if me, I wont recruit you”. However, is that enough to cap someone as “toxic”? He is a pretty straightforward and expressive person. If he thinks he doesn’t need you in his wb hunt party, he will not hesitate to say it. But maybe I will talk to him about this to consider the feelings of other players as well.

“Unpleasant”? Maybe yes, maybe not, depends on the player. Players who got pissed with him showing off his cubes after every single wb hunt, players who got removed from his party, players who got easily swayed by the flow of “hate”, might think he is an unpleasant guy. This “I hate Jace” business is basically a risk for Jace himself when he decided to act like that. But so far, I don’t see his actions meant to harm the other players. Did he ever trashtalk to you? KS you? or something similar? Did he ruin your entire ToS gaming experience? No? Then why all the hate? Why do you like to make small things become big? I mean no disrespect, but I just want to say that some of you are basically fighting over 1 person who doesn’t even know or care about this drama.

Again, I mean no disrespect, but I’m tickled by an earlier post that demands Jace to give his response here to either clarify things, or apologize to the others to gain empathy or something. All I wanna say is, Jace did not harm anybody and he was just being rational, even if you said he was inconsiderate towards how other people (except his friends) would feel. I cannot blame him for that.

Again and again, I mean no disrespect, but I’m also tickled by an earlier post that stated “I can do more damage than that s**t pyro/linker build whatever”. Is that a really big deal to you? Jace is a Linker c3 and he needs a specific setup to optimize his build in wb hunt. He doesn’t care whether there are people out there who can deal better damage than him as he is not a DPS. :sweat_smile:

I’m also confused that there are still people who hate players that “camp” the world boss. The term “camp” is not 100% correct. All we did was scouting every map with world boss, inform each other if there is a boss that spawns, kill the boss, and save the schedule. So are you saying that this kind of behaviors/activities is forbidden in the game? It is a part of the game’s mechanic and all we can do is follow it while making suggestions to the developer to make it better. But you must accept the reality for now. You spend more time playing the game, you will have higher chance to encounter world boss and get the drops. Man, even players who camp the world boss aren’t guaranteed to obtain all those good stuffs. It’s all about who get the blessings of RNGod in the end.

But okay, I guess haters gonna hate. Rational or not, I can’t really do anything about it. In the end, people will always have a reason to talk crap about you, and hate you for small things that don’t even affect your experience that much, whether you are their enemies or best friends, whether you have met each other or not, whether you know each other or not. :pensive:

But seriously, if you re-read this whole thread again, this thread has changed from “a guy who opened hundreds of cubes” to “this guy is bad imo. i dislike him and everyone should dislike him too”. Is this the really what you have in mind when you made this thread? @chajr2468

At last, I also want to personally apologize if one of my members (Jace) displease you. @NaviWolf @noilid @boltonsquad @ShyBoo
But that’s all I can do for you. I can only apologize and tell Jace to “think” a bit more about how others would feel. However, if he stays this way, it is not my place to force him to change, or judge him. I hope you can understand.

That’s all. Sorry if my reply is an unstructured mess. I also want to apologize if some of you might be dissapointed with my reply, or feel offended. I just want everyone to chill, have fun in the game, and not wasting your time over 1 guy. :slight_smile:

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