both installed in my pc but i still have the arranging proble the game still not opening
can you install team viewer and send me message? I need to take a look at your computer to fix it quickly 
Can you confirm here later if the fix you have been applying is solving everyoneâs problem? Iâm trying to think random things but I have nothing to test it properly. I have no one close who have been crashing for me to test stuff.
Iâd also ask if you could check the hash of system DLLs the client is loading to compare if they are the same between computers if this isnât a burden. You can do this either by using ProcessExplorer, seeing loaded modules or with CFF Explorer in the Dependency Walker section.
You said about Windows 10 fixing the problems. If it actually solves I wonder if the DLLs will be different for each windows version (always 32-bits but 7, 8, 10) and if this is a pattern. It might be worth to copy all the DLLs the Client_tos uses from a Windows 10 into that directory to see if it solves crashes or bring up any problem. Depending on the results IMC could add these required DLLs to the release directory.
[details=My other theories comes from code changes in tos client along with the update to 2015.]
Such as new concurrency code that isnât locking resources right and in some corner cases some threads being started before/after than others and the management (locking/freeing resources) isnât perfect and as well if IMC actually changed the lua wrapper version and that one could have introduced a new bug. Or even in a corner case if a lua-side garbage collection is messing up things or resources being freed by the concurrent tasks are being passed to the lua engine after this. But honestly I canât justify any of these theories so I donât think thatâs the real case.
On this the only thing Iâm kinda sure of is that the problem happens inside the lua engine but also can be something wrong in the native code that only actually crashes when the lua engine uses that data.[/details]
currently installing hope you can help
I stopped getting random VGA errors during the game and was able to get most of my dailies done. Still get freezes and one VGA error during loading screens and thatâs it.
Gonna test further to confirm itâs really gone.
check hash number of dll files tos uses may take a long time. Here I take screenshot of list of dll files it uses.
Oh since the version is different, the harsh number will be different also, I think.
what did you do? upgrading to windows 10? 
That doesnât help much >< but I got a new idea. Iâll check the values manually later by extracting them from the vcredist_x86.exe from different options there.
I thought on checking only of these ones, but nevermind that.
(Basically filtering the ones from vc++ runtime.)
Following my random thought, did you notice if this problem exclusively happens to NVIDIA users?
Nope. Just automatically works fine after the 6pm patch. Also I did hide the Intel HD Graphics tray from the bottom right but I highly doubt itâs that.
maybe IMC is able to fix it now. I still believe that the core of VGA crash is in the game client, not in windows. It is in windows only when you cannot start the client.
Anyway, windows 10 provides the latest running enviroment. Still better using it than out-up-date windows 7 
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I think no. I am using NVDIA, my guildmate also uses NVDIA and we both donât have crash problem⌠IMC just pushed 1 more update this afternoon, it may help to improve the situation already.
I thought on the possibility of clock/fan speed changes from NVIDIA drivers could actually be one of the sources of the problem. Not sure tho.
I think if windows/graphic card didnât work well, you would see the blue screen or sudden reboot instead of this crash message lol donât worry IMC will patch the game client soon. the VGA crash situation seems to be better now.
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I meant more related to the game not whole system (as in, game handling things in a wrong way). I hope and Iâm glad theyâre fixing it too o:
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fixed. Later tell me if you get VGA crash while playing or not.
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Well gee maybe they should fix that first instead of having players sit here diagnosing their mess? Is this release or open beta again?
The game I am playing currently called Toukiden 2 crashes from 100% CPU use and the last time I installed ToS in January it was not even coming close to that.
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So now you change topic again? Classic ophiuchu.
And if âtheirâ mess was something related to the VC++ runtime that worked on older version and was changed on 2015 version while their code didnât change?
Also, and if the VGA error is now actually fixed now? Are you saying that user detailed feedback on issues is useless?
And well, a game shouldnât crash from 100% CPU. TOS doesnât crash during heavy load/100% CPU usage. Who is âbetterâ in this plain comparsion? I can compile linux kernel using all 4 cores on my processor (100% usage) and still play TOS, no crashes.
Since youâre a pro QA & Software reviewer, why donât you report the issue for them with detailed information, solution and all the core dumps you got with your tools?
Spouting âmy game is broken, i paid, fix it, i sent ticket, game crashâ is easy. Every developer can get into âI need user feedback to fix this issueâ, itâs not a âomg, Iâm so bad, my app crashes only for that user, iâm a bad coderâ.
If your painting somehow wasnât good in a certain almost hidden place, what would you do? Ask the costumer where it is or ignore and take more time to find and solve it by yourself to feed your pride?
Itâs a real world problem with lot of articles about it:
And a well known factor: Most users donât provide detailed information about bugs and when or what they were doing before the bug/crash happened.
Rather than expecting users to know what information or data are needed, some developers realize the advantage of simply talking to users, preferably face-to-face. Like any good relationship, communication is key!
This is so true. IMC is doing exactly this, asking for input. A bad developer in this case wouldnât care gathering information to fix things faster. They would just ignore the people crashing for weeks/months until things are solved or recommend: âFormat your computer, the problem is on your endâ and never actually fix it.
If youâre willing to help, just help. If not, be a good person and keep quiet instead of trying to make things worse or intentionally giving bad information that only makes things take longer. So you prefer IMC to take longer to fix everything and make the game worse for them just to feed your pride by saying âit is not my job, fix your gameâ?
It has always been the topic. See my first post before you paragraph spammed. Looks like their error feedback system got debunked and they prefer to hire support staff instead of server admin or programmers.
It is okay though because players will just work around it finding the problem for free right? Stay on topic and defend them on hiring support instead of IT or not even using the correct system for isolating bugs.
By now the IT would know the problem after 4+ months of crash logs and publicly address it but this server is just a gumball copy paste mess.
Initial: "hur, i send clash dumb but u dun read"
Second: âhur, make the game clash dumbâ
Okay⌠same topic. As you say. Youâre totally not trying to find anything to cling on and attack.
Their error feedback system is limited. Did they ever claim otherwise to be debunked? Or were you the only one assuming it is a complete system with entire process memory and found out it isnât?
Plus, any argument to support your claim that they prefer to hire support over programmers? Wasnât yourself one person talking about the hiring page containing job information for programmers?
So you prefer only to go to extremes? Players should never do any feedback and make it totally up to the devs to fix the issue, even if it takes longer in any case?
And I never said this nor defend that type of choice and was never my point. I wonât answer too all of your straw man arguments, maybe only to some of them like Iâve been doing, since you like to use them to try to convince people as you canât do real discussions and need to appeal to these cheap things.