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[Skill Balance] Differences between kToS and iToS! Why?

Well, those Pyro skill values were never used on KR. They went straight from the ones we had yesterday to what they have now. Our “inbetween” values never existed there.

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We really need a list of skill changes as soon as possible.

Nice one :laughing:

fckthis20charrule

That moment when you remember 1 year ago how IMC decided they will not apply ktos patches, and instead apply their own. Then watch as they ruin it all again.

Barrier was also not nerfed to require an attribute for its normal size.

We got 1 patch behind afaik.

Yep we are not latest patch. I wonder how many players will get tricked hehehe

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Oh no wonder why… I was confused that I couldn’t aim my Pole after patch as well @.@

I wonder why as well. I mean, what we are “testing” now might become useless as soon as we get the latest patch and if that happens after the reset event is over it’s going to be really really bad…
That’s one of the reasons I preferred to wait for the balance patch.

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So they applied a older patch or they are making different changes to itos. Warlock skills were not nerfed here also…

ive noticed some Sw1 skills are still flat rates, and not % based. this may be intended though, as i just read they were having a huge balance update, and came to check it out.

Which SW skills?

@TheAlleyCats is PoA CD 60s here or old value?

Now that you ask me… It’s 70 secs, 10 secs more than ktos. :crying_cat_face:
I guess they’re doing some tests with us…

Bash, Thrust, Gungho adds flat rate bonus attack, same for Concentration

from Highlander i see Wagon Wheel, Shock, Skull Swing, and Vertical Slash(granted this one gets bonus dmg from Skull Swing)

For Barb i remember before resetting: Giant Swing, Embowel and Stomping Kick. could be others, but i dont know this time.

Oh and , none of the skills listed have anything like [Speed of Atk] next to it. they just are not % based

I just noticed this and I’m really confused.
Do you know what is supposed to be the scale with the latest gung ho and concentrate?

They are, it’s just that the listed value is not saying %, actual calculation is % based.

Personal anecdote of doing 70k crit as lv 160~ Highlander 3.

I don’t think it is.
For me, gung ho says it gives +71 physical attack, I thought it might be +71%, but it really gives me 71 flat patk.

I don’t know the new value of gung ho, but attack skills at least are %.

Don’t worry about offensive skills lacking a % symbol. All of them are percentages.

Gungho is still flat. Even on KR.
Concentrate will always be flat since it’s an additional damage buff.

The values seem to be correct, just missing the “%” symbol. So it is just a tooltip error, not a functionallity difference.

Gung Ho, Concentrate, Blessing, Enchants, etc., all show brute numbers. Their formula is not in the tooltip, you only get to see the results.

im unsure if thats true. cause if it is, that would mean Giant Swing is stupid powerful. as the attack value i saw on it was 2856 or something. that would mean like 2856% x 9 or something on a rank 5 class? ‘~’ idunno