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Running Shot (in-depth Guide and Understanding)

easy way to do faster than that anime cancel is kneeling shot. But after rank 8 I’m pretty sure every musketeer don’t wanna do that lol.

i only do that when i have missile hole + stone skin :stuck_out_tongue:

with qs3 going well with a wugu whats the r8 class that best fits it? I don’t see mergen since its 2h bow class, hacka? stacking arrow for aoe attack is a problem as well since qs3 is single target. can go wugu 2 only for musk or canon? but canon works so well with falconer which you don’t have

thats why wugu go A2/Falconer at c8 to look for a possible bank at C9

If you are going for cannon/musk i dunno some people said it’s ok some said need worse invesment

What about the crazy idea, Qs3-wush3-rogue?
Full STR
Didel Tower shield(2xred Gems)
Either sissels(for the lack of acc) or even glass/phada to pump ur DoTs even more.
Standard yellows on DGC/MGC
Headgears with at least +100 p.attack(having some crít attack as secondary if possible)
And here comes the rogue… and the famous werewolf cards to make u crít 70% of the time.

Does it make sense?
Ofc i have to pray i have a half decent r9 lol

AA doesn’t work with WW cards now.

I heard it glitches.

I can’t speak for others but, the only time my werewolf cards glitched out on me was when I took the rogue attribute dagger mastery. Before that everything could crit just fine.

It’s been a week since my ticket and IMC just wont do anything. I’m already making another QS3-Ro to try it out and make a base for falc3.

sounds weird coming from me but the issue might be prolly imc potatoe coding which is why i am hesitant to tell everyone that rouge will work as it is intended lol.

Just like chapalin capella doesn’t refresh now heh… IMC is extremely good at breaking stuff and take ages to fix it

I honestly don’t mind if they take long to fix it. The first big step they need to make is to acknowledge those bugs somewhere and make a priority list that we all can see

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sadly they don’t -_-…

It’s sounds like a big waste to take Rogue1 on the 8th circle. Especially after QS3-Wgsh3. QS3-WGSH3 is already such an OP combo, that you really should take Mergen or Hackapel - either is good with QSWgsh, depends on the play style.

Retreat Shot and Marching Fire does have total 30hits by default.
So a 15k DPH would deal total 450k damage.
And the highest damage per hit of Retreat Shot I ever see is 29k-34k per hit, so that’s total 870k~1.02M AoE DPS within 10 seconds.
But that was Orange Grade Lv315 Pistol though.

For Purple Grade Lv315 Pistol, AKA Double Stack, I saw it roughly 20k per hit with Retreat Shot.
I’ll search through my history later for a reference link and picture.

Chronomancer with SR, I have never really tested it out yet.
But I think I believed that Chronomancer’s Quicken, not Haste, does increase total hit from 30 to 42.
I can’t get to login game this soon, so anyone here as SR that has Chronomancer friend can help me testing this. I would really appreciate this.

And for Running Shot, I’m not sure if Running Shot alone may have enough potential to reach 50k DPS or not.
I recalled a +15 DDGC Trans 5 Qs3 user with Running Shot gems deal around 20k per hit. But I don’t really know what is the actual DPS of him with Running Shot.

I personally don’t have anything against anyone whom find their playstyle suited to Qs3’s Running Shot kiting.

But if anyone claim that Qs3 will have the best single target DPS in Archer class tree, I would like to politely ask them whether or not do they know what Flet3Mergen / Flet3Hackapell is.
I’m not even sure if the Qs3 build can eventually beat something like RanMusk or RanCan in late game boss DPS or not.

And regarding cooldown issue of caster build, there is skill rotation existed.
I hope that you know what it is.

Qs3 is a good 3 circle from my perspective, but people tended to thing about the class only of Running Shot for some reason.
Fundamental things of Qs like either Caltrops or Pavise are actually very underrated.
I don’t even know why.

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well im using a +7 DGC trans 1 with 2x lvl 6 yellow gems and a red gem on manamana and i deal 11-12k per hit (total)
but then again it depends on the mob’s defense, he probably tested it against rank 8 mobs with very high defense.

We will surely see someday someone with 4 red gems level 8 9 10 +15 +20 didel grand cross + running shot gem and max transcendance.
For now no one knows the real potential.
Some go mix stats, some full str with rogue 3 and werewold or ellaganos or whatever etc

i am waiting for that too.

maybe i should add this info to the list of reason why Running Shot slowly dies on later class.

you see, Given the fact that you can increase running Shot damage by all these means. (gems, upgraded weapons and transcends).

does this ever, cross your mind that it also does ‘increase much more’ other skills damage as well?

Running shot is capped with the skill level 40% each. 5 from the skill, +1 from gem, +2 from all GC variant, and hopefully +1 from marble. giving you 9skill level which amounts to 360%

let’s give the benefit of the math that assuming you got 10,000 P.atk, i hope that this amount is right for everyone.

10,000 modified by 360% = 36k per hit. twice every second in which 72k damage per second.

Now, can you imagine how much damage can other skills do with a 10K P.atk + their respective attributes?

again, i am not against Running Shot. just pointing out valuable facts that most players neglect.

where in respectively scaling RunningShot not considering other skills for comparison is i think, in my own opinion is one-sided thinking. but that’s just me.

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I can add one more factor, people using kneeling shot combined with 405 attack speed (kneeling shot gem in a 2 slots gloves) if they are not trapped into restrained attack.

I’ll be busy to fund my hakkapale or else I would have been A2QS3F3 full STR with Dex/crit rate equipment /gems + 8 ellaganos.

@elzarius
Finally someone has pointed this out, thx.

@lunettesrouges
Given the similar upgrade value of gears, other classes would have their potential spike up too.
For example, this Mergen :
[+10 Lv315 Purple Grade 2H Bow with Trans 9]

Yes, she just literally dished out 2.5m damage in 3 seconds within a single skill.

By the way, I can’t recalled seeing anyone else build some “Full Running Shot dedicated build” yet.
Anyone here planned one? Its just a curiousity on my mind.

Most of the Qs3 build I see would be something that advanced back into Skill Caster class again, like QsMsk or QsCan. (I have even seen QsMergen theory crafting before, but never seen a real one though)
For each player’s personal taste, I have nothing to disagree though.

But as for class synergy, advancing into such a class would seemed to actually hindered Qs3 down with each seconds they sacrifice for casting skills instead of using their Running Shot isn’t it?

If the reason for choosing those classes are because they have better damage scaling into late game, then why is it a good choice to sacrifice most of the time of Skill Rotation into channeling AA of Running Shot?
Aren’t something like, for example, just Ran1 would significantly boost those damage scaling even furthermore with at least 10% more from Steady Aim?

QsSR is kind of acceptable though since it is kind of trading Steady Aim for Running Shot.
Although, I doubt something like Ar2Ran2Fle1SR3 or Ar2Ran1Wugu2SR3 will ultimately deal better single target DPS with those DoT + Limacon or others skills.
Those two variation would look more like a variation that sacrifice some level of Steady Aim for slightly better single target DPS.

But yeah, I do note Attribute Enhancement costs.
Building something over economic reason is reasonable too.

Also, something classic like Qs3Wugu3 still look neat as a pure DoT build.
Plus with R8 coming, Ar2 for Crit Rate is available.
But this build still look somehow mediocre since it made up of full early class & mid game class. (Ar2Qs3Wugu2Hack1 anyone?)
But who knows, Future R9 classes might luckily have an unexpected synergy with this build also.

Any thought about these?

@Stricksocke is a dedicated QS3 A2 Falcon3.
Don’t know if he is still on forum.

@lemaitre_dulotus is QS3 wugu3 hackapell. But not as geared as stricksocke.

Is @nfprivaron . Quite nice gear.

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