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Rest In Peace DEX STAT

I am not IMC, however.
There aren’t really “Filler” options to plug in with Monk, given physical attack skills don’t even start for Cleric until R3 with Bokors Tet Malak which is a tool for controlling zombies, and then Paladin’s Smite at R4.

Archer has 3 ranks of physical damage filler before they even invest in Scout. So while it seem unfair to Scout, they have a physical toolkit going into Split Arrow that grants far more choice and would leave them with a lot less downtime than Monk if it became 5 OH.

Yes, you are right, keep your head in the hole.

Who cares if I like it or not, like really ? It’s not the point here, this mechanic is destroying the game diversity, it’s what we need to talk about. As for Double Punch, it costs Stamina, not SP. Plus Monks don’t have a lot of physical damage skills before Monk like Archer tree.

Spamming skills… It 's remind me of Maple story. Does anyone know that game? Greatest MMORPG ever :laughing: which have like 80% skills have no cooldown. I think IMC get it wrong when fixing 0 cd skills too, it 's not weak or op or unhealthy play style

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I would like it way more if the most skills got no CD.
This would make weaker skills viable.
Powerfull skills need a CD like Cyclone.
Sp costs should limited the skillspamm.

(See his 0 CD Skyliner dream dying .__.)

With CD you will always have the same skill rotation and thats sad.

It’s same without CD. A rotation is made to deal the most total damage, so you need to think about a routine when your skills have CD. But if you don’t have CD It’s the same thing, you still cast Storm Calling before Zaibas. IMC just need to reduce a lot of skills CD, they did it in GW2 in a recent patch (all classes up, almost 0 nerf) and no one complained.

The only 0 CD reliant class anyone plays is Fencer, so how is it destroying game diversity? You’re just pulling things out of your ass now. You’re literally saying removing diversity is good for diversity because you live in a fantasy world where your baseless opinions are facts.

You must find a boy/girlfriend god damn it.

What ? Are you so blind you cannot see which class is destroying game diversity when we are talking about it on this thread ? Wow.

It’s exactly what you do, not me. Quote where I say [quote=“SlyGoat, post:46, topic:356539”]
You’re literally saying removing diversity is good for diversity because you live in a fantasy world where your baseless opinions are facts.
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You really should avoid this forum for few days or stop answering me if you get tilted like that for no reason except the big amount of salt you have eaten.

Okay, how about right here:

0 cd skills destroying diversity? hahahahah dont make me laugh, oh sorry i and @SlyGoat complete forgot all the scouts, hoplite and monks clearing all the 40 floors of ET, dominating tbl and being meta classes, everyone is rolling this classes because this 0 cd skills are super op, hahahahaha.

Scout3=Split arrow. Make this change definitive and none ever will play scout 3 again

You are the one saying

But you still say it’s not a problem to class diversity… There are other factors which are reducing diversity of trees, some skills like Split Arrow is one of them. You are just putting words in my mouth, good job.

@SlyGoat You didn’t understand again, zzz. Reread.

Ok so kill scout3 will bring more diversity. The others skills has not been rewokerd so no point in going c3.

Almost all skills gonna be % based. What do you mean by “reworked” ?

“Kill Scout3” by adding 10 sec CD while increasing damages dealt, lol. Just test Sadhu right now and tell me more about your cries.

That’s a problem in itself given Scout it an Assist(support) class with completely forgettable support. Ele had the issue where only 1 skill mattered only worse then scout since scout c1 was still picked up in some builds. Now ele in Ktest is better rounded. The real question is when will scout do what its supposed to?

Same question for QS and a lot of classes on this game. They messed up with those class icons, I bet dev team on this part were all color blindless.

Clearly you have never play a scout 3. Flare shot is a mediocre aoe, flu flu and scan are jokes, cloaking is good utility skill but isn’t worth it to take beyond lvl 5. Finally perspective distortion is so so in party play (none is going to ask you for using it) so tell me what skills i will take? Also the skills factor are nothing impressive for flare shot or flu flu. So yeah, scout3=split arrow, if imc dont truely rework the class, like adding new attributes and really change the skills, none is gonna play scout 3 anymore, because its main utility is the speed clearing dungeons

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Dude you’re barking on a wrong tree… this is iTos live server not ktos ktest server -_-. if there is a forum for ktest server you can bark there as loud as you want not here.

Can confirm, Machineugn builds seems promising, this is with 180 dex.

@Lestr
Thats why we got the test server to test things out and give back feedback, not complain. The difference is that you got the choice to be constructive about your opinion why scout will be useless, instead of just saying
"oh my god rip scout" and cross your fingers imc will hear you and fix it.

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Wellp, rip boss! lmao

/20 characters

Sadly, that’s reserved for good ping users :(, will be great to play a qs3 i like the class a lot, but my best ping is around 140 :frowning: to Silute. Im force to play burst damage builds like sr which i still like it. On the other side i have two scouts between 200 and 300 which i have no idea to what reroll. Probably will be a ranger 3 musket and the other one a hackapell.

C1 Scout is very popular for Cloaking. C2 is the circle that has nothing. This is actually a problem with a lot of classes where you have to either go C1 or C3.

However, changing Split Arrow means there is no point in going C2 or C3 Scout. Even buffing it to be a multi-target burst skill means you’re spending 2 circles to be an inferior Fletcher.

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