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[Request] Remove Headgear enchant scrolls from cash shop, and +stats from premium mounts

Ive gotten an enchant scroll from a cube. Just one, i dont do dungeons every day though.

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IMC can you please make this game “PAY TO PLAY” that would lower the rate of scum, whos always crying cause they want everything for free.
That are ppl, that won’t invest any single Dollar in the future!

I stand corrected. I had received bad information about this.

However my original point still stands. You cannot buy the scroll from the market. You have to wait for someone to list the headgear you want (both appearance and slot factor into this) and it has to have the stats you wish to have.

You can’t actually buy the scroll itself from the market.

@calcot29 Also you’re forgetting that literally everyone playing iToS right now has paid, so please stop embarrassing yourself.

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We already began to slowly became P2W. I expect it much later but this. The game not even release yet. *sigh

Anyway, how much times will you try to get the +AOE ratio bonus with scrolls ? Farming silver to insta-buy the first one that fits your playstyle wille be hundred times faster. Why would you complain ? They already erased most of P2W / P2Play content from korean version. You can’t cry for a such minor issue when they are making something about Trades restrictions and tokens uses. Even if they retrieve the scroll system (which can be acquired by many ways other than real money), the P2W aspect will still be there, with tradable token. But i’m fine with it, RMT are not the only alternative for players who can’t/don’t want to invest much time farming silver, IMC provides this service legaly. Which means, you can still be competitive without having to play 16hours a day, without having a chance of loosing your account.
They are problems that must be treated before this, like World boss loot distribution , class fix, matchmaking system… They already listen to us, don’t waste this opportunity to construct a great game with some permanent crying about anything that doesn’t seem fair enough.

Trading and team storage has nothing to do with this issue nor do the plethora of other problems in this game. They do not impact the ability to implement a solution (save for time and money and I don’t think anyone is asking for a speedy roll out on a solution for this).

Also I dislike the fact that you and many others reduce the opposing argument to crying. There are many valid points to removing or making enchant scrolls more accessible. The only argument I’ve ever heard from anyone on the opposing side was…

“You can just buy the headgears with silver!”
“The stats are negligible” (spoilers: some actually are not)
“IMC needs to make money”

And the same problems persist.

  1. Buying a headgear you want in the proper slot with the proper stats is not going to be cheap and is extremely dependent on the individual seller. You have browse through sometimes pages on listings to find a headgear with the enchantment you want. Why can’t we just buy enchant scrolls outright from the market or from an NPC?

  2. The stats aren’t always negligible. I’ve stated this many times and no one has ever actually acknowledged or try to argue against this. You can literally obtain +9 AoE Attack or Defense ratios on all your pieces combined. Granted the odds are low, but +3 is very doable. If enchant scrolls didn’t give AoE attack or defense ratio then yes, they are negligible stats in the long term.

  3. There are better ways to make money. Black Desert Online does haven’t to rely on RNG scrolls to turn a profit. RNG boxes are great in the short term, you get to suck out the money from whales and make a killing, but in the long term, people dislike it and it gives your game a very bad reputation.

In my opinion the worst part of this enchants is that they destroy somehow the idea of an outfitt item …
I mean everyone can start gamble them or searching for them in the market and if everyone do … the stats will get negligible .
But u tradeoff most of the time some stats for hte hatgear u really wanna wear …
and selling really cool hatgears could be the better choice :stuck_out_tongue:

mfg
Majin

Said the guy who does not spend $ 1.00 in games to keep them active and just want to enjoy have benefits for free.

But … But… TP buyers allow the game exist and you play for free.

“I cry about p2w. I don’t have a job, I don’t have a life, I rage online, my opinion is always better & smarter than yours, people piss me off when they state facts and truths, my dog hates me, I don’t go to school, my life sucks, so here I am, raging about redundant things that have been said over & over since the birth of mmorpgs. But to me this is brand new stuff, to me this is gold, why? Because I was born yesterday. I am ignorant and I don’t care about educating myself on any matter that does not concern me. Why oh why must I cry… ■■■■ my life.” -hanprofession

before I am reproached.
YES I prefer to be sold by TP only cosmetic items.
But agree, it is not swimmingly, we first need to get the server to be profitable.

first of all we don’t play for free right now :stuck_out_tongue:
Second i pay if i think the game deserves it… for me its not about the money … its about the system and the game behind it .
And well the only games ever got credit for a shop from me are Path of Exile and League of Legends.
I prefer P2P models like guild wars or Abo models at any time :stuck_out_tongue:
And well as long it keeps that way i can probably life and play with this enchants but that don’t mean i think this is the best idea ever.

I spent 100 TP buying scrolls and regret deeply,
I bought a headgear in the market for 150k better than anyone who had.
I never buy these scrolls again.

But my precious though D: spent all my tp to make them.

I fully agree ! I prefer P2P also, unfortunately our reality is that now we have to fit in, games with monthly not survive more.

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if they are just awesome and keep the player they will survive :smiley:
its just harder to please everybody ^^

id rather b2p than play a p2w game that calls himself “f2p”

You’re playing a Korean mmo how old are you to not know by now what this means

my first and last korean crap game… must have known that asian games are all p2w and full of casuals