Complain about enchant scrolls and what almost negligible benefits they can provide. When proven that they’re going to be available to -everyone- after a gvg win. “Why have them at all, why not remove them?”
This entire thread is dumb.
I know about that, I’m an old player. I thought it was fairly obvious that when I said merely in-game this means only from in-game and not elsewhere. Sorry if it sounded vague, but still, let’s be polite.
people in this forum dont really know the correct meaning of p2w. Remove this topic.
Well i don’t like this stuff much too…
Its a p2w mechanic and even if i state i hate this stuff , i sure still want the best possible extra stats i can get 
So before even trying to gamble here i sit at the market and buy good ones more than i aktually play … this sucks
btw i managed to get 3x 30-40 matk + 3x 25-30 elemental dmg + any 3th stat
before hitting with my char level 200 and there is quite a impact there !
mfg
Majin
what…? Where else…? Even cash shop is in-game… Now you are really confusing me.[quote=“elysium, post:83, topic:219965”]
I know about that, I’m an old player.
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then… why write that?
Maybe I should go start a thread of my own to predict what future whine threads will appear and scenerios. Current example :
Make enchant scroll obtainable in game, it’s TP only, P2W!
But… But… TP buyers can buy more! And without effort!
…
Maybe companies give in and normalise stuff because they can’t take it no longer…
Also, with the upcoming guild event, you can bring your max tp regeneration to 8 so f2p can get it from the shop.
You should do that. All the sheeps and whales will flock to it and rally together!
p2w can be just almost anything which somehow change ur gameplay …
even if u have a 0.001% increased chance to dogde u could argue about it …
The extend in which we are able to tolerate it is the matter …
And well the good thing is its not a really competitive game. some bonus stats of anykind in a game like League of Legends or a Counter Strikeor any Esports game and i m out right away.
And this one well… u can try to get ur good hatgears u could argue about prices and acces or … even if stull like that also credit goldsellers.
In the end u should stop blabbering that no one know what p2w means … they dont have to introduce an item which grants u bonus dmg from 0.01-1mil just roll it … 
mfg
Majin
Remove RMT from the game, its P2W.
People shouldn’t be able to buy currency from 3rd party sites.
Again, let me clarify. I said:
This doesn’t mean I wasn’t aware that it was available in-game. I know it was available from in-game dungeons.
I was writing that to make the argument that it should only(‘merely’) be available in-game, i.e. in those dungeons, rather than in the cash shops. Sorry if it was unclear.
I hope you are not just trying to be facetious now? Most people understood what I meant. Again, I apologise if it was vague, but it I think it is pretty clear what I meant by now.
I would prefer if you point out actual objections and arguments that you have, rather than all these ‘sidestepping’ questions which are really not directly relevant to the principal argument we were having. If you’re really not keen on that then perhaps we can drop the matter and call it a day.
Yup that’s good. Opens access to the scrolls more, which was my preferred solution.
My solution never was to remove the scrolls in the first place. I just wanted to point out flaws with just leaving it as status quo. People seem not to be receptive to both sides of the argument here.
I should. It’s the exact opposite of threads like this. And topic can be
Whiners vs Sheeps.
Pfft… being willing to spend in a game with cash shop has it’s own insulting term now… seriously… 
Can’t decide I wanna laugh or I wanna cry.
Enchant scroll : 5 TP, but remove stats premium mounts.
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kinda like the idea of the 5tp per scroll, because you can use the Free TP in the Soul Crystal (i use the 5 in them) the warp scrolls (kinda handy) or the scrolls (if you want them buffs).
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lets use Diablo 3 trading systems after they close actions house that way no more complain, people gonna love the grinding more with only probability (luck) will determine your strength, no more any kind of trade that between party member for a lock time. That way it will kill those goldseller like it did in Diablo 3.
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Shut
The
F*ck
Up
This game isn’t p2w except for the token-can-have-1-extra-buff thing, and even that is barely noticeable by purchasing daino scrolls ingame
I already did. From the very first post. Spend = minor incentive. Simple as that.
But to some these minor are not “minor”. Nothing I can do. As I said, soon they will jump off to find something else as target.[quote=“elysium, post:92, topic:219965”]
If you’re really not keen on that then perhaps we can drop the matter and call it a day.
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Let’s just end it as that. I will just keep my mouth shut and let IMC decide. End of the day it’s their game. I have already stated my point anyway, don’t see what’s there more to debate about.
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No, being able to spend money and spending it irrationally and supporting scummy practices are two different things. You’re making the assumption that people who don’t buy TP, don’t buy enchant scrolls or even pretty little costumes can’t afford it.
That’s a very bad assumption. It’s the same kind of logic that “Founder’s” used when they were trying to support the game launching with a three month early access period for $50 only. They, like you, made the assumption that “Well they’re only against this because they can’t afford it! They’re just whiners and they are poor!”
Just because someone doesn’t want to support a practice or buy something doesn’t mean they cannot afford it. It means that they made a choice not to spend. Now when you generalize this into whining, you just look foolish. People who blindly spend money without thinking about it because they can are whales.
Whales are the primary audience of these enchant scrolls. They expect certain types of people to spend between a hundred and several hundred dollars on these RNG scrolls. This is a bad practice, especially in the long term.
Furthermore I’m not fully understanding why you continue to claim that the boosts are minor. Do you actually know what AoE attack and defense ratios are? If so, how can say they are minor knowing that a user can get several points in these extremely desirable stats?
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Obviously you didn’t even accept the very fact that you can farm scrolls in game or just buy the
enchanted item off the market. Kbai, I shall let others repeat the same things over and over again.
As I said[quote=“roflmaopapa, post:70, topic:219965”]
You know what I call such threads and topics? Neverending story.
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Doesn’t drop? Ok. I shall edit it for you two final time.
Bonk!
And you missed the fact that you cannot buy enchant scrolls on the market and that enchant scrolls don’t drop from cubes in iToS.