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[Request] Remove Headgear enchant scrolls from cash shop, and +stats from premium mounts

They are not needed, and only serve as attempts at slipping in P2W products. We started with headgear enchants, now we’re getting stats from premium ounts - before long you’ll be offering 2x drop rates for premium users or premium-only epic gears. It’s a slippery slope, don’t even tread it.

The mount and headgears should stand as valuable commodities without needing combat advantages - or you’ve poorly implemented them.

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They are not needed, nor do they make any kind of difference at high levels.

Low levels? Yup they’re fairly strong and help level new characters and support classes faster.

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[Request] Remove this Topic.

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I agree with the removal of headgear enchant and token if IMC truly intent to make the game non p2w.

Just give us more cosmetic.

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Threads like this make me want to stop reading the forums…

But then again I’m afraid they’d get the developers to believe that this would be the general opinion of the people on the server.

So will solely your love for this game keep IMC alive? No.
They will have to sell something the people would be interested in and that helps them at certain points.
It’s a difficult balancing act, but it’s undoubtly fine here.

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I dunno being able to add 180 crit attack and 120 phys attack from 3 headgears probally helps somewhat. Not really a game breaker in the long run but yeah. Don’t be mad because your poor ro too cheap to spend to get them, they ARE avail on the market so its not like your left out. You either pay the RL cash, or you farm cash in game and buy em. As much as I hate to say this they need to make money somehow. To be honest i’ve seen much MUCH worse pay2win stuff in many other games. Dungeon fighter online comes to mind, the stat boosts on avatar sets are massive, like its literally night and day between 2 people of the same class 1 with a full avatar set and one without its extremly noticable. The stat boosts in tos are minor in the long run, especally when the level cap is going to end up around 600 or so.

But yeah damn are they useful at low level especally +elemental attack property headgear with cafrisun set and sacrament from a pardoner.

[Request]
Stop doing drugs.

what do you want the game to run on? goodwill, dreams and hopes? they NEED an RNG item on the cash shop to keep people spending man.

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here we go with another P2W rant. ughh… blah blah im poor blah. IMC needs money to maintain the game and the items you request to be removed arent even close to P2W

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You can have a successful cash shop without having to offer P2W. People should stop trying to validate themselves with in-game purchases too. You don’t have to be poor or cheap to not want to support P2W items. The only reason you attack at that angle is because it helps you feel more secure about yourself. It’s okay though, you’ll get better with time.

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How about gaining 3 AoE Attack or Defense Ratios?

They aren’t a nice advantage at all.

i’m sure people are just worried about what happens in other games. if you don’t have all the cs stuff, the latest version with better stats; if you don’t redo all your cash shop every time the game updates, you soon end up way underpowered… it’s extremely expensive.

not sure imc is anywhere close to that yet.

They need more variety in the cash shop if anything. Thankfully they’re adding albeit slowly.

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Stop QQ, you can buy token in market, i have buy 7 token with silver in 1 month, its not pay to win, its same for the scroll you can buy the hat with stat, if you want see a real p2w go see other game on gameforge, trion and other company.

Stop trying to argue what is and is not P2W, there are other threads for that if you feel like soap-boxing how you feel something isnt P2W when it actually is.

Every new game that comes out tries to implement P2W because they know it’s guaranteed $$ from people looking to validate themselves. Trying to say something isn’t P2W when it is, is just you fanboy-ing over the game you’re currently playing and blindly trying to protect a game companies wallet when they don’t need you to.

What the game does need is for the players to actively protect its integrity. And that means calling them out on P2W. Which is what’s happening here with the exception of the white knights.

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your complain would have merit if the enchanted gear is untradeable.

In case you haven’t tried it yet, enchanting requires a good amount of real life luck. I’ve lost count of how many enchantment attempts I’ve done but only got sh!tty stats up to the present.

Might as well buy the well-enchanted ones on the AH with farmed silver.


re:premium mounts - I’ve read somewhere it only adds about 30 pdef/mdef . Nothing game breaking when you can get one-shot killed in PVP or PVE.

another topic talking nonsense.
Why P2W if you can buy the headgear in the marketplace for silver?
removing the tokens?
How do you want to have people working for you if you do not want to pay for it?
Cash makes you save time farming silver, but it has nothing P2W. you make your choice.
Stop crying and go farm, either in the game or in real life.
Do not be a baby

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The point is that it’s not game breaking yet. They will likely add more stuff with this cadence - and in a few months it will be a very noticeable game breaking experience. As you said though, right now it doesn’t improve anything - which begs the question, why was it added in the first place? Clearly its not needed, so take it out.

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I will gladly pay for cash shop items. Cosmetic items. Luxuries like character slots and bank space. I, and many others - will not pay for P2W items. There are also many people who will refuse to spend anything in the cash shop because they do not want to support one that has P2W items in it. They are unquantifiable though - so nothing will be done on account of that.

I think IMC is already aware of the consequences if they go overboard. I’m just sticking to the topic here (headgear enchants and premium mounts).

@g_craice gets it.