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Remove Pay to Win Options (Like resurrecting with icoins)

World boss is a pretty big deal and I’m a Ragnarok player with experience with “token of siegfried” (same concept as resing with cash) and that’s my reference point. it’s so obnoxious to compete with those players. It forces you to pay to be on their level (for the advantage like I mentioned) or you just give them the rewards.

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NPC in Klaipeda that opens your adventure journal and you can click lil chests that give you a ton of iCoins, without paying. Just from playing the game. I have about 400 now on one character.

ive played tons of games where there are stuff u can use to rev on the spot either wit cash money or with a item u buy from the cash shop and i in no way see how thats p2w if u srsly have to useing stuff like that to rev then ur just bad lol

I’ve partied my priest friend and when some bosses kill you with a knock back skill, res doesn’t work. Sorry I should give more specific examples.

except in ToS, world bosses drop is the same as everyone as long as you dps

you get a [boss name] cube

if the boss only drop from a party that deals the highest then i can consider iCoin resu a pay to win (only a little though) because you can resu to keep your dps high and get the loots.

in ragnarok i think whoever hit it first or party with the highest damage gets the loots (until your leader set it to leader loot and solo it and runs away with it)

unless they change the drop in world boss. iCoin resu is not pay to win.

field bosses only gives cubes to parties that deal the most dmg. and again if ur dieing then ur just bad bosses in this game are easy and i play as a wizard the only reason i die at field bosses is casue my fps drops to 9 wit all the people and skills effects other than that its so easy to dodge

well just let wait for open beta and see…after that…if it still not worth for your time so then just quit man before it will disappoint you more in future…

only in CBT but in OBT we dont know if its still the same.

even if we can get iCoin there we wont know if the iCoin resu will be 1 iCoin. they can change it to 10 iCoin per resu or even 50 iCoins

Guys, can’t you see he is serious. Please, take him seriously. No joke are allow in here.

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so y jump to a conclusion we know nthing about just wait and see what they do

ummmmmm.
disagree with you. this isnt p2w.
p2w woudl be buying gear.

i see nothing wrong here

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You don’t understand the concept of ANY advantage no matter how SMALL, people will pay.

im starting to think this guy is trolling myself

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Wait to see what they do? It’s easier to implement a function in the game than it is to remove one. Once icoins exist and resing with cash exists, they will be in for good.

so what if people can res with cash ive seen it in many games and thats not even p2w if u considering reving with cash p2w u obviously haven’t played p2w games this should be the least of ur worries i see no problem with it the way it is even if they make it so u rev wit icoins

True true. Please, do by all means, state more suggestion what can we do to prevent this disaster . We must not allow any P2W in this game!!! It will be broken at any state!! Again, take this OP seriously

Kay well this will be my last post. Thanks for the discussion everyone.

There is a lot, i mean, a LOT of people that doesn’t even know what they are talking about and call something p2w, and this OP is one of them.

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Bye…good luck bro

i know what pay to win actually does…

i know you experienced or see cash item that never lets the item get downgraded until +10 (+15 limit) only success and fail never broken or downgraded.

or even change the quality of an item to legendary. you can buy it using in-game gold but can also be bought using real money.

and in ragnarok where you can just buy cards for cash and weapon with 4 slots for cash.

only items that give advantage to others like bonus damage or invulnerability or remove penalty can be considered pay to win. even reducing damage by 1% using cash costume can be considered pay to win since you did say no matter how small it is.

so yeah like i said earlier that if they add buffs when doing the iCoin Resu aside from the 5 second invulnerability can be considered pay to win. but if its still the same resu then i think that resu wont do much