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Remove Pay to Win Options (Like resurrecting with icoins)

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#1

Having pay to win options concerns me. This is the way online games work: If there is an advantage, no matter how small, people will pay. This excludes the majority of players from the market of the game and hurts the longevity of the game. I am more than willing to pay to support a well-balanced game (just look at League of Legends and WoW business models and look at their success). But if pay-to-win options come in I’m not spending a dime and this game is not worth my time.

Please no resurrecting with icoins!!!

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#2

dont see how thats p2w when every one gets 5 icions every day u dont even know if thats how its going to be in offical release faceplam just jumping to conclusions and complaining about smthing u know nthing about. also i see nthing so far in this game that is p2w there isnt even a cash shop or anything

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#3

Why would they have a res button with icoins if they don’t plan to implement it?

#4

And if this is not a concern to anyone else, then what’s stopping them from doing these things to the game? P2win honestly hurts game play so much.

#5

maybe icoins isnt smthing u purchase with rl money maybe its gonna be just like they have it in the cbt where people get icoins every day or maybe u get it from doing quest or certain thing WHO KNOWS. Also y would they put shovel to be purchased with i coin when it has to be used by alchemist to dig so ur trying to say i have to spend rl money to buy a item for my class? that makes no sense? we know nthing about the icoin system so stop jumping to conclusions about the game being p2w

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#6

it’s also harder to remove a function once it’s already implemented, so I’m giving my feedback now and I think resing with icoins is a very bad idea. Some rich person will have such an extreme advantage on field bosses/ power through tougher fights in the game.

#7

in Open beta korea there is no access to icoins for free players.

#8

I take it you’re playing priest on release?

#9

No I’m playing wizard. But I’m concerned about priest. The res skill is pretty pointless and the range sucks especially with position bugs that sometimes happen.

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#10

faceplam im not even gonna bother anymore

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#11

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE65CFXUkAE4t9X.jpg

What do you want then? Die = revive near a statue + removal of res from priest skill tree?
Dying already chunks away 30% of your durability, so it’s not even worth spamming icoins to revive on your own.

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#12

u do realize there are 2 skills that say revive one that prevents u from dieing and one that bring u back to life when ur dead so i dont see how that skill is useless

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#13

forget it then. you guys win. enjoy your game

#14

also resurrecting a number of times within a short period of time without going to town has its disadvantage and i know all of us know the number 1 is durability getting deducted which when it reach 0, it will render your equipment useless or just plain naked

#15

it can only be pay to win if the iCoin resu includes not deducting your equipment’s durability and giving bonus damage for x secs after doing the iCoin resu

#16

bring spare gear?..

#17

clearly I’m the only one who has this point of view. So it’s best that people like me not play this game.

#18

It’s not that your idea is bad, it’s just that in this current state - reviving with coins cannot be considered p2w considering the negative effects, and seems to generally only appear relevant in world boss fights and ‘wtf’ moments.

We’re not disagreeing that p2w is bad, we’re just disagreeing that revive coins are going to be p2w.

Look at Mabinogi:heroes cash revival , that’s a better example of paying2revive with 20s invuln frames and gaining bonuses at the same time.

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#19

I guess I should have phrased it differently.

#20

what about the range position bug? im doing 80-90% chance of resuing a player/partymate. I dunno what kind of bug that is that I can’t resu 100% (resu skill going cd but the person is still dead), but ill just say wait for the CD then i puff resu again.

OT: I think resu using iCoins is not actually p2w, except and if and only if they can be used in PvP 5v5 arena/GvG or any PvP related issues. That is something im worried about.