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[RANT] who tf told swordies to be dps?

Class and Rank Swordsman
#245

Dear OP,
There are bad players regardless of class, not just swordman class, your example of a cata who refuses to provoke is valid enough although there are worse
example :

At DG115, I was busy tanking the 1st boss (as we all know has a homing fire pillar instant kill attack),
and the archers on my party instead of clearing the minions, decide “I AM DPS, I KILL BOSS” resulting in the minions wiped them out and of course they bitch “this is why it is hard to play with sword without SB, the minions killed me” … is it so hard NOT to spam their 180 degree arrows dragging aggro from everything on the screen and work together to clear the map before attacking the boss ?
And yeah, archer moving ahead of my tank, drawing aggro and running in fear of their lives when monster chased them resulting in a whole mess of monster all over the place happens… often

Just yesterday, partied with a group of mages in Siaulai, I Swash both porcupine and Poata bosses, dragged it to the corner… and this mage just decide to stand next to me (either for better DPS Output or thinks she can tank the boss) just after I type, don’t stand here. she died cause of combo attack… and the other mage a cryo took her spot and made an ice wall completely obstructing my char ability to manual evade… there’s a whole area BEHIND the bosses and these two decide standing next to the tank is a wise idea. This happens quite often when I am in a party with mages.

there was a pardoner who went completely leech mode in dungeon 145, and I cleared that dungeon literally only 3 person party (1 tank, 1 diev, 1 cleric, 1 leech and 1 dc quit) but this is a rare one.

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#246

I’m a boss ass hustler and i’ll DPS with a freaking catagoon because i want to.

#247

OP really don’t know why people takes sw2 over pelt.
Sw2 is suitable for the most effective AA build. You can blame them because you don’t understand or don’t accept it. AA Sw’s can hold aggro in the most efficient way then a pelt who only swash and press C. This kind of swordies really TANK NOTHING. Every one who goes first can lure mobs because they aren’t passive.

Its impossible a wiz/archer full dps most geared in ToS take the aggro from an AA swordie.

One more thing: For swordies, every source of damage matters. Concentrate gives more hit count and gung ho effect can be doubled with deeds and restrain can keep the mobs waves under control.

#248

at least i know my subject-verb agreement.

say whut

some don’t even take the provoke passive or even head in first into the mobs because they’ve been told they’re dps and should act like wizards and archers. those who didnt take pelt but still lure and get the aggro are very admirable and shouldnt be classified together with the rest of sw 2 kiritos

what is not acceptable is when people are advised against going for builds that won’t contribute to parties and whine like kids later on as if they’ve never been warned. their mantra is “mind your own build, this is my character” only to call out discrimination when they dont get accepted to parties.

#249

Highlander > Sword 2. Since you mentioned DOV and Gung-Ho, damage difference of a level 5 and a level 10 gungho amplified by DOV is still…a little.

#250

Every source matters.

#251

And this exactly makes highlander better. Two hand-sword master+level 5 gungho and now you have a better strike type, which is cartar stroke.

#252

Well, I think you didn’t saw AA swordie in my post.

#253

What AA Swordie? DWA corsair? are you kidding me? even that becomes irrelevant and only becomes a filler late game.

#254

I don’t remember to say AA swordie will do tons of damage.
I only said in what they are good.

#255

Eh, okay. You’ll realize later that there’s very little room for AA later in the game. This is also why most sword 2 complain. you can dig up older swordsman threads to check things out.

#256

Really? I don’t give a fk.

Go play swordie so you will take your answer.

For some one tell that is why they really don’t know how to play a swordies(85% sw don’t know what they are doing).

Who are you to tell what are acceptable or not when we talk about ranks choice? People are free to take the way they judge good for them. If they will cry later, is their problem.
I’m sure who will never contribute for parties are AFkers. You’re so closed mind.

@Lostac AA character are pure pve 4fun, I think nobody will go ahead seriouly with it. Our knowed case QS3 failure in later game. They take canonner/falconer to minimize this issue.

#257

alright. i’ll leave you to your “AA build” alone. haha

of course. i agree. just what mentioned earlier.[quote=“Kascly, post:256, topic:308330”]
Who are you to tell what are acceptable or not when we talk about ranks choice?
[/quote]

uhm read again please.

or probably it’s just the language barrier. oh well.

#258

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#259

Update.

With the ktos patch concentrate now scales with str and dex, and restrain’s proc got increased from 4% to 6% meaning taking sw2 is now a definite path for DPS swords once we get that update that is… mhmm… probably next month or by the end of this month

#260

Should be, but we’ll have to try it out first

Something like
5/5 Restrain
3/5 Bash
10/10 Concentrate
9/10 Pain Barrier
3/10 Gungho

#261

Hmm not that im greedy but I still hope gungho gets reworked too atm its the one buff that’s not worth using when doing missions and dungeons.

#262

the last part is tricky, * (skill level -1), pvp swordsman c3 builds might wanna test out a 15/15 concentrate

#263

O.o what does that mean, sorry I just skimmed at gwenyth’s pastebin post

#264

the higher your concentrate level is, the better the multiplier

actually, if my math/understanding is correct
(str * 0.04 + dex * 0.02) * (skill level -1 )
(300 * 0.04 + 100 * 0.02) * (15-1)
(12 + 2) * 14 = 196 + attributes