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Ranger skills damage new patch

Class and Rank Archer
#21

If anything, you’ve been preemptively IMC’ed, do not blame nexon this is IMC’s handy work and game.

As I said wait until things are set in stone once more before feeling any more IMC’ed, me in particular have only c3 classes so the diversity thingy doesn’t hit me, but you’ve shown that it is a concern atleast to some, I for one am glad that a C3 > C1 since it makes sense.

Anyway: rainbow builds will still exist, they’ll have quantity over quality, but that quantity will be overwhelming both in SP consumption and number flying across the screen.

#22

xD better b4 than later [quote=“Composition, post:21, topic:355155”]
do not blame nexon this is IMC’s handy work and game.
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Ok sry i got confused is nexon the korean publisher or something? if so why IMC is directly the publisher for INT vers? xD i always tought Nexon is IMC korean version or something like that haha

Lucky ^^

Yes but still they can find a way between than destroy rainbow build and don’t make c1 too relevant.

Only way i could see this is:

R3 beat R1 dmg in my build, but overall my R1 and Sap 2 beat R3 build.

Something like this, that require very much patience calculation and theory craft.

#23

As i keep on saying there are lots of changes in ktest that when you try to compute everything and compare with the current version can you only “guess” if its going to be good or bad. We must always consider that ktest patches arent set in stone as it always changes. Its a freaking test server.

If we only base on the % factor then were not really looking at the whole picture. There are other factors that we need to look into to compute the damage and compare afterwards. My previous reply is an example already by only factoring in the increase in weapon damage (yes, most weapons increases damage by 2 times). Ktest introduced a bigger base damage. But also introduce the log10 computation for dmg and def. There is this no damage penalty as well but instead there are bonus damage.

All in all, simply basing on my previous example, all i see for ranger is a buff not a nerf

#24

Maybe buff C3 and nerf C1.

Also no one is comparing KToS Server test with IToS.

but i say and will say it again.

Faint lvl 5 only 84 % suck.

I open thread about say multi shoot with same % was underwhelming compared to barrage.

I wanted MS to increase damage not barrage got nerfed.

and again [quote=“tidus, post:12, topic:355155”]
= 1890 x 5 = 9450. Hit 9450 on 50k low hp monster with stage 10 transcendence is low.
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Lvl 5 barrage with lvl 10 transcendence (K TOS SERVER TEST DATA!!!)

On base mob of 50k hp is underhwlmig 20% hp (hug) with stage 10 transcedence. also why most of time with barrage you don’t hit 5/5 so dmg keep go down.

#25

Changes can come but atm ranger look sad…

#26

Check weapon attack values in tos-ktest.neet.tv

Weapon attack gets doubled and sometimes more than doubled. Thats why the scaling is being lowered. Lets use Aufgowle Bow as an example

Aufgowle Bow https://tos.neet.tv/items/163120
Attack 520 - 781

Aufgowle Bow https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/163120
Attack 637 - 1911

now compute again for your barrage. lets use lv5 barrage since you really like Ranger C1. For this computation, let us use the max attack of the Aufgowle bow as basis

Current Barrage w/ Current Weapon attack values
(781 + 250)*5 = 5,155

Current kTest Barrage w/ Current kTest weapon attack values
(1911 * 0.84)*5 = 8,026.2

can you tell me if thats a nerf to what we have right now? If you factor in trans 10, thats where we can say that the current is stronger than on ktest servers but we still havent factored in the ktest server refinement which is stronger than the current one by leaps and bounds. There is even a bonus on every 5 increments on refinement and the increase in damage gets boosted by the rarity of the weapon as well.

with these given, even if the % factor is pretty low, we can see that its still stronger than what we currently have. It may look sad right now but its still stronger. I agree with you that it would be nice if they increase the % factor more but lets wait and see for the changes in ktest

#27

Keep belive you will always do max damage with your weapon is a dream.

Maybe you’re not reading at all because i’ve post data with lvl 315 practo weapon after damage change with transcendence 10 and calculate the average of damage not only max dmg.

for the last time

this data is based on KToS Test Server. Not IToS.

TLTR:

If today we would have balance patch i’ve say good bye to ranger because now is underwhelming if not c3.

This is a reality. Can keep say what you want.

Ranger c1 user here and if today we have patch i would skip it without care too much.

#28

Also i was used to take R1 Ro1.

Now this combo is simply bad, wrong, and underwhelming.

This route have been totally destroy.

Now is much much much more gain go ranger 3 for more % barrage and spiral arrow High Anchoring and Steady aim.

It provide much more damage than faint + brrage lvl 5

This is underwhelming and a nerf

Range 1 ro 1 = total useless bad build ATM. (Compared to R3)

#29

please seifer, dont make such a baseless gossip before ktest’s testing phase is finally over… it will be bad for any newbies archer player who come to Archer thread. Be patience, okay?

#30

Level 5 Feint Barrage does 5 hits x 84% x 3 OH x 2 Feint which is 2520%. (level 15 being 3660%)

2520% is better than level 10 Covering Fire (1760%), just below level 10 Headshot (2541%), better than Volley Fire (1708%);
Better than all of Cannoneer’s skills, better than Homing Arrow (2330%), Triple Arrow (1536%), better than Storm Bolt (1980%), Leg Shot (940%) and Cavalry Charge (1368%).

Heck, Full 25 hits of Magic Arrow is only 3225%. I don’t see why you’re making a big fuss out of this. It’s clearly still better than most R8 skills.

And again, as everyone is saying, no values are final yet. Let’s wait out until it gets released to the official servers first before concluding.

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#31

oh that explains the horrible english.

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#32

1260% (counting the OH) for a lvl 5 barrage sounds really good for me and that together with Steady Aim already makes worth taking a circle of Ranger.

#33

Ranger c3 is the only way and take rogue c1 i think for decent dmg

What about spiral arrow any info or formula about the dmg will be less???

#34

what i say here is just that invest in c1 only don’t seem good.

faint + barrage lv 5 840% dmg while faint lvl 15 is 610%

Also faint + barrage have number of target restriction and longer cool down.

plus bonus to other skill.

Every one can make their own resoult no one is forced to listen me. I only say my point of view.

Is true to wait if to see end of test if get any buff. But i also say for how is the situation ATM.

Also for any new player that at last have read combat changes know there will be free rank for all so at this point people should feel free to try what they like more even if mystake because have chance to reset later.

And again, i wil drop my rainbow r1 ro 1 because even if can’t compare 3 rank vs 2 invest in 2 separate class for how is the game NOW seem underwhelming.

#38

i just wish for anyone who would read this thread to read the whole thread, otherwise they would be easily misled. There really are lots of things to consider regarding the ktest changes and he really isn’t helping in clearing the fog

#39

The truth is that any and all things should be disregarded until KToS live server gets the patch and our version aswell, until then it’s just a test phase and all things are bound to keep changing, think of it as a beta, because it is. Finally.

#40

yes, all of it is still bound to change but doom posting about the changes doesn’t really help players prepare for the upcoming changes if it goes to the live servers

#41

on a second thought, maybe tidus already found out that the new barrage is strong and want to keep it to himself by deliberately posting wrong calculation over and over (brainwash) so that no one pick ranger and ranger become hidden gem in this new patch. #plottwist

#44

My self now we’re on war.

#46

Dont make a war on my post there im the fuking king of your fuking life call me ragnark you are floki there dont make me repeat it again :blush: