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QS + SR Build Questions

Hello, everyone!
I had to stop playing ToS for while and now decided to come back, however I’m really confused with all the new content (R8, cards and new equips).

Keeping things simple, I wil try continue my char where I stopped (A1 - QS3) and want some advices of how to move on (Skill, equipments and cards)
and what exactly is good right now (Atributes and Stats)

For now I’m thinking in going something like this:

Mostly 'cause I really like playing solo and the high mobility…

I heard that limacom have changed, how it is working now? It is still usefull? Please fell free to sugest something totally different from what I said above.

Another topic is stats, I don’t have any ideia of what to put now. In some threads people say that Dex is now useless, due the cards and equips. Others say that the R8 have really high base damage and STR is not good as well, so what do you guys sugest?

Thank you in Advance!

I am not archer main, but this is as far as i know:

SR3 seems a really strong class right now, it’s one of the strongest AoE classes in the game. Many ppl would tell you that it’s better archer 2 and ranger to increase crit and dmg, but whatever. QS3 is really legit and strong early and late game.

About STR or DEX. The topic is more about: If you have a lot of money and you have investment, you can get a lot of dex and crit rate from gems, cards, gear… So you can invest many stat points in STR because you gonna get the crit from other sources.

Also if you go rogue you have extra crit with sneak hit so shouldn’t be a problem. There is Werewolf card, which makes your attacks become “back attacks” or whoever you call it, comboes well with sneak hit.

Ok, that’s all bye.

Thanks a lot. I will go with less DEX from now on then.

Any tips about atributes or equips?

R8 have really high base damage but that mean Mergen-Hakka-Musket-Cannon
(simple to say they are R7-R8)

I have no idea about stats for every class right now because of gem/head gear update.

About equipment
dmg of SR upon gun. but dmg of QS upon crossbow. If you want to focus on SR skill you need to focus on gun.

if you want to go SR , i have to ask you if you have enough $$$$$$… because SR is one of the most expensive class ever exist.

Both weapons needs high upgrade specially offhand.

Main weapon safe upgrade is +5 and Offhand is safe at +3

SR skills take their damage from OFFHAND, making main weapon use only their options.

your QS3 takes damage from Main hand. where most of your skills are going to base.

it’s either make it or break it…

tl;dr, no +10 mana mana no SR. better make other class which is less expensive but effective wise

I’m currently A2>QS3>SR2, going SR3, so here’s my advice.

Drop Rogue. If you want mobility, Rogue will end that for you. Unless you feel like investing upwards of 60~80mil on Werewolf cards, you will be spending far too much time trying to get behind your opponents. It’s alright for killing bosses where you have someone else to distract it for you, but in almost any other situation, it’s pretty impractical. And without the cards, you won’t get any crits from your Retreat Shots, which will severely limit your damage potential.

A2 gives you full uptime on Swift Step plus the Crit Rate attribute. This means +25% crit rate, which is a huge bonus that costs you very little. On top of that, the extra levels in multishot will be a good filler for you to use between your Running Shot cycles until you get the SR skills to fill the gap.

I don’t know how far you are into QS skills, but if I were you, I’d drop Rapid Fire for max Stone Shot. Having that ten second stun can really open a lot of opportunities for you in more difficult content. I currently have Rapid Fire 10, and I never use it. Level 1 is enough for the attribute, so I’d leave it there. I wouldn’t say its worth skill resetting for, but if you haven’t put the points in yet, consider that.

As a QS3, you don’t really have any need for Limacon. It doesn’t stack with Running Shot (Limacon buffs your C attack, RS buffs your Z attack), so as long as you have a Grand Cross/DGC (which is a lot easier to obtain now) you won’t really have much need for Limacon. Sure, it can hit multiple targets, but if you want to hit multiple targets, you might as well just use a skill.

Otherwise, I’d just make sure you get Concentrated Fire maxed as soon as possible. I’ve been leveling it first (even ahead of Retreat Shot, sacrilege I know), and it has been fantastic.

As far as stats, its pretty much what pereyraibz said. If you have the money, get STR. If not, get DEX. Personally I ran a 3:2:1 STR:DEX:CON, and then stopped investing in STR at around 120 points in and CON around 50 points in. This gives me a nice healthy crit rate with gems, and I still feel good about my damage. For cards, I would recommend Ellaganos if you drop Rogue, otherwise definitely Werewolf. Glass Mole is another option, but imo its overshadowed by the other two atm.

If you stick with Rogue, you need a LOT less DEX. You could probably do something like 40~60 points in CON, 30~40 points in DEX (for some basic hit rate? not really necessary if you keep your gloves current) and then the rest in STR. Again, I don’t recommend this path, but its certainly viable.

For equipment, all you really need is Grand Cross til 220 (up to +10~ if you can). The first big item you probably want to drop money on is a Manamana at 170, followed by a Didel Grand Cross at 220. I’ve found just whatever white/blue 2h bows I come across are sufficient for dealing with flying enemies, so I wouldn’t worry too much about investing heavily in a 2h bow.

I personally like Green Gems for my weapons, but with the new gem changes, reds are a lot more viable. You can season to taste, but I’d recommend greens until you are carded/wearing Sissels, then switch over to reds as necessary.

Personally, I have gotten a lot of mileage out of my Vubbe Fighter Gloves on my SR. With those plus Manamana, you can hit up to 2 Mediums at a time with your skills, which adds a lot of power (considering how plentiful medium enemies are) for Multishot and Concentrated Fire. No bonus to Running Shot or Retreat Shot though, so not necessary by any means.

For attributes, there aren’t a lot of important ones for QSSR. Naturally, you want 1h+2h bow masteries maxed asap. If you get A2, the Swift Step Crit attribute is absolutely necessary. You can grab the Crit Def Reduction on Rapid Fire for a little boost to your crit rate, and then after that it’s just putting damage into Concentrated Fire/Retreat Shot/Assault Fire.

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Ranger 3 Rogue 1 SR 3 here

The character is fun but, as other sad, expensive as hell.

Going Rogue is true hardcore since you are adding a MUST have 8x werewolf cards - mind must be lvl 10- to be effective since day one of your end game, and to be honest I’m not sure is even the best solution for party plays ( u gain nothing from monstrance and chrono basically, for example)

Plus Manamana +10 is a must basically, plus +5 (at least) all the xbow you are gonna switch in.

Plus attributes, hell yeah.

Add the fact that I honestly feel QS3 works much better witgh Archer 2 even with capped rogue (8x werewolf) so I do STRONGLY suggest to drop rogue for archer 2 at the very least if u are gonna go for QS over ranger.

ps: welcome to the grind for having a decent SR :stuck_out_tongue:

i have to disagree on this, Rogue with wolves needs to ‘MISS’ alternately along with their crits in order to release their full potential, so investing in DEX is not an option. why?

unless you don’t want that free 235 P.atk, and +10 movement speed

tbh that option is pretty useless :V…

works mine pretty well, it gets proc via retreat shot and forward shot :sunglasses: regarding bullet shot with the bonus movement, i am uncertain how much it adds, but the sound of shots increases with max stack of frenzy (lunacy ingame). pretty weird

Well… it’s kinda hard to trigger 8 ( personally dont’ find it worth while)

Just treat it as a bonus on the icing cake :V…

Speaking of ManaMana + 10 i just hammered my today. (for another alternate toon to run 290 in future to farm + saalus bot)

Archers and Swordsman are high investment any way… ( rip game)

it’s not hard to trigger with your lack of accuracy from DEX, sissel itself reduces your accuracy by 20 points. i never had problem stacking it when my SR was full str (before r7).

if only i had knew there will be wolf cards for sneak hit, i wouldn’t reset into dex. glad we have free Stat reset now. :smile: i am able to revert back into full pve SR.

good gracious you made one. many friend attempt to make it but they failed at +4 :sweat_smile:

Full str 0 con ftw. Rouge are a disgusting breed of gaming :^).

yea cost me about 8m ( 4 pot left over) (my musket is also running on 0 con right now) seems pretty decent

:sweat_smile:

I prefear phada over sissel on rogues builds, u are ignoring evasion no matter what with a str build and phada gives you all that you need (+2 aoe atk, +60 phisical, +260 critical atk).

Sissel trigger is sweet, but you don’t gain anything from crit rate, so it’s basically 62 phisical + triggers.

Thanks a lot!
I’m actually QS3 already, but you made my mind, I will drop rouge and go A2 for this build. Money is not really a problem, I’m not rich as hell, but can afford a manamana and some cards and gems.
I reading a lot about the yellow gems now, I think I will go more DEX than STR and try these new Yellow and Red Gems. I already had the Rapid Fire in lvl 5 and agree with you that is not that useful, apart from the atribute.
I already have my Vubbe fighter gloves (thx to halloween event and the drop on vubbe blood) but I`m still using cafrisun for now because of the bonus damage.
There any stats on the pet that are best to level for SR?
Thank you for the inputs guys!

Aaaaannd… gems revamp strikes!!!

NEW META! :stuck_out_tongue:

That is the build I devised for now.

I will probably go 1 STR : 1 DEX or 1 STR : 2 DEX, not sure atm. Wanna try the new Yellow Gem and the Red Gem on the Off-Weapon. Since my focus is PvE and Farming, I think I won’t miss much the extra STR

I kwon it’s a bit early for that, but what about R9, do you think hackapell will synergize good, or maybe one of the new classes… Just for the sake of theory crafting… hahahaha

I don’t think Hackapelle will synergize very well. Hackapelle’s want swords in their offhand, while SRs want a pistol at all times. Of course, you can autoswitch as necessary, but I feel like it’s just a hassle that we don’t need. Of course it might end up being the best option once we see what the R9 classes have to offer, but I would seriously hesitate to pick any class other than the R9s just from seeing how the difficulty has scaled up from 6 to 7 to 8.

I have a question, do Running Shot 320% damage bonus benefit the yellow gem’s crit attack? (example, 1000 worth of crit damage, if 320% running shot bonus, 3200 crit damage?)

Or does it only benefit physical attack from red gem?