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PVP rebalance? What do you want?

Still nothing on r7x that i can see, but these changes are a good step for better PvP.
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R7X is the only real counter to high burst right now.

Before nerfing it, we should see if the changes to damage in PVP will be enough to stop people from getting one shotted.

If so, I think R7X could be a damage over time, for 7 hits, one each half second at least, to be useful as a rank 7 skill.

You mean like blocking 90% of attacks, revive, ausrine, safety zone, mackangdal, sterea troth, counter spell? They all prevent damage and some are questionably OP as hell, but overlooked because r7 is such a game breaker.

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Kabbalist is too strong

nerfs Ein Sof

Dev1 : hmmm… they say pvp is broken and unbalanced. how should we make it better Dev2… ?
Dev2 : defenitely nerf CCs Dev1!
Dev1 : OH, you’re absolutely right Dev2! let’s nerf CCs!

NERF CCs PLEASE

They are nerfing counter spell, cc immunities, and ein sof as well, in case you missed it. You know, the things that make cleric OP.

Revenge7 is easy to counter if you know what you are doing and weapon swap to tap it off.

R7 is not easy to counter, the only reason you say that is cause you play cancer kab. As melee players you go up to them and by the time you remove r7 you already got 1 shot. Not to mention half the time it doesn’t even go down.

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if revenge didn’t work on summons, constructions and pets and had short duration it would be ok, More of a counter to aoe heavy dps classes.

implying that is the only class I play.

Try again.

% Target hp Damage cap on R7x would be fine too.

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Didn’t imply anything literally didn’t say “you only play r7 cancer”. Try again at what? You play cancer kab so you defend it that’s all there is to it. It’s bad for the game, it’s anti-fun, and it requires 0 skill to use and get carried by it in pvp.

You play Kab - you’re defending it by saying it’s easy to counter making your argument invalid and uselss.

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You are implying I don’t play ‘melee players’. I play a murm. Try again.

r7 is easy to counter. switch your weapons and give em a love tap. It is easy.

Don’t forget to remove attack buffs like blessing and head accessories that give attack so you don’t one shot yourself barehanded anyway.

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the main problem on r7 is:

  • buff pets whitoud any defense.
  • sometimes just down appear on enemy head
  • very short cd/very good duration

Go read again, if you know how to.

Lmao, people like you are the problem with this game.

r7 is not the problem - ask Lyms

Stop wanting to nerf Ein Sof and Revenged Sevenfold. Those are the only skills except Merkabah a Kabbalist can use in PVP(3 skills of a total of 8 skills; all of them have over 30 seconds CD time[35,40,60 seconds]).

Ein Sof is pretty fair, considering its investments (at least 12 skillpoints to make it a permanent buff) and its reliance on your HP and defence to have a decent effect.

Revenged Sevenfold also is too easily detected and too easy to remove for its relatively long CD time of 40 seconds.

The real problem I see is that 5 of the Kabbalist skills have no effect whatsoever in PVP: Reduce Level, Double Chance, Gematria, Notarikon and Clone.

I think Kabbalist should be enabled to make use of at least Reduce Level and Double Chance,too, in PVP by allowing Gematria/Notarikon to work with randomly calculated numbers on player characters.

That way one might even think about a slight nerf of duration or whatever on Revenged Sevenfold.
Otherwise no, just disable 2/3 of every Classes skills first for fairness in PVP before talking about how unfair or overpowered Kabbalist is.

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Kabbatard detected D:

People like you are literally nobodies.

You clearly know who I am in TBL, feel free to display your team name so I can point and laugh at you.

That or continue to let the salt flow.

“How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” [Matthew 7:5]

Stop flaming people just because they play a certain Class, especially when I gave a solid reason why Revenged Sevenfold and Ein Sof don’t deserve nerfs as long as 2/3 of the Kabbalist skills are unusable in PVP.

Those who play other Classes should really have 2/3 of their skills restricted from use in PVP to get the feeling a Kabbalist player has that steps into PVP.

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