Preliminary beginners guide to Clerics

[mrobledo777]

I wouldn’t use a pardoner build for pvp, or for most of pve tbh. Well aside of pardoner + pd i suppose.
I’d stick to using it to make money and then grab a different character for pvp/pve.

pvp stats depend a lot on the build as well, as a lot of dmg options are less viable in there. (less str, less int.) Con is very good there though. And dex is ofc a must for physical classes.

Spr has some merit as it helps stop cc as well, but it likely isn’t viable as main stat due to the sheer drop in health/crit resist you’d have due to a lack of con.

Im going PD man, not Pardoner

[Vektor]

May I ask how was the leveling experience?

I’m currently building a full support mage and considered making a full support cleric, but the leveling scares me.

[Azama]

For leveling get cleric 2 1st rather than priest 1 those heal 11x2 will be a big help in killing boss/mobs that will be your main killing skill you can also use cure… Other than that its all auto attack for you (use cafrisun set + arde + blessing + sac) until you reach 200++ which require a party to grind.

[andy_aao]

well I don’t recommend it for solo play, unless you are very patient.
I did all my quests duo with a swordie with taunt, I did all my dungeons and missions every day and when I had time I did dailies too.
I am now lvl242 plague doctor and did 0 grind.
I still have lvl10 and lvl11 cards but I don’t plan to use them til after lvl250. Now I’ll just do the 240 dungeon with exp tome and missions as I don’t have that much time during the week.
Unfortunately the dailies don’t give cards higher than lvl9 and that’s no longer useful.
Saalus missions don’t give exp but they are kinda fun to do and there is always the (slim) hope that you will drop something good.
I will probably have to grind the last 20 lvls from 260 to 280.

I am really not sorry for choosing krivis. people skip it because they say they will buy daino scrolls but I haven’t seen anyone get one. Also the debuffs stack well with incinerate if you are going the priest3-chap route I don’t imagine what debuffs of your own you can apply to make incinerate work.
Bloodletting is love, healing factor seems good on paper but I think people are not used to it yet, at least most people never step on it only by mistake when I place it. Still not sure about how many points I should place in fumigate I think I will place only 1 point for now and keep incinerate at 4. Planing to use the skill reset I have anyway after I get to 280 and test the full build. Also not sure about blessing/sacra/aspersio distribution. They are already starting to seem underwhelming.

[dualshielder756]

Hey, I also took Kriv into PD as a Chap (not sure if you specifically chose chap, but at least you have levels in priest!)

So far my first build was max sac and aspersion, but it left my mass heal 5, so I respec’d and drop my sac down to 1 so I can max mass heal, ress, and the rest into revive. I’m aware stoneskin isn’t -that- awesome if I don’t stack SPR, but seeing as I do carry Daino, it probably doesn’t hurt to cast it if there’s no other SPR priest3 in the party. Maybe it’ll block 1 stray attack and if it blocked something then it isn’t a complete waste.

[andy_aao]

I skipped chap entirely as picked cleric2 which I feel is kinda needed to heal enough. Also maxed my mass heal, res and revive. I’m not keen on taking out points from these because places like saalus convent really hurt. Plus I feel like bless and sacra will be useless soon… (due to their non scaling) so far I have 5 5 5 not sure if to lower aspersio to 1 as it’s hard to hit on multiple targets. Only have 50 point invested in spr so far.

[jr_batenga]

If I plan on going Priest C3 Chaplain for support, what is the most important stat I should be raising? SPR for buffs or INT for healing?

Should I go,

3:1:2 INT : CON : SPR

OR

2:1:3 INT : CON : SPR

[Wurmheart]

Only for structured pvp you want very little spr, as there’s next to no block penetration there.

For everything else you likely want some spr, let’s say 1/3th due to people stating no spr stone skin tapers off in pve.

But the exact ratio is up to you, int’s dmg and healing isn’t needed but certainly helpful. Spr’s is arguably overkill past a certain point, but i can’t say when or if that happens myself.

[Remiri]

As a Priest C3, running 100-130 will give you enough block with Stone Skin 5 (6 with Divine Might) to cover you for PVP.

It also doubles as some magic defense and status resist.

Rule of thumb, if you are going for support in pvp, get SPR. Forget about damage status as your job is to be a pain in the ass and keep your group up.

If you want to melt peoples faces and be off support, go STR or INT depending on your damage type.

[Skorpian]

Hi, your guide is pretty good. I’m thinking about a support paladin (healadin), but I am quite confused about stats. Should I focus Str/Con/Int or Str/Con/Spr? If I dont spend any points in Int do my healings will be lacking?

[Wurmheart]

Int is never mandatory in terms of healing, besides restoration gives a bonus anyway to your healing so paladins are ok in that regard regardless of stat.

For paladins i’d still go full str atm, with around 100 con for defenses. Spr is unnecessary, just use spr regen headgear, potions & firewood instead.

See this test thread for a more detailed showcase of str vs dex:

This should answer (almost) all of your questions about the STR vs DEX debate....

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There’s some new claims of dex being stronger, but can’t verify it with the tiny amount of information given.

(mostly boiled down to 1:2 or 1:3 str:dex and requires a lot of gems. + monstrance ideally.)

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[Skorpian]

Thank you for the reply.

[Skorpian]

About Plague Doctor, does Incineration scales with INT?

[Gwenyth]

Does anyone know the current state of transmit prana? [Sadhu C3 Skill]

[Wurmheart]

Ask @BlaXun if and when he gets back, last time he tested it was borked and did absolutely nothing.

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@Skorpian:
Yes, it’s a magic dmg skill after all.

[Meemers]

Why people choose blooletting over beak mask?
The only pro is the duration, but thinking about rank 8, beak mask shoujo be better.

[Wurmheart]

Bloodletting is party wide, beak mask is not.

[Tekmoti]

Any toughts on a Cleric 2 Diev2 paladin 3?
Sounds like a good zoning combo.

I’m currently Cleric 2 Diev 1 pally 1 and unsure where to go and what to lvel(STR or INT) going pally 3for sure tho
Wanted Diev 2 because the owl looks just so nice, and zoning enemies with world tree + barrier would be much cool. But I don’t think it’s good without int :<
any help appreciated.

[Wurmheart]

It’s viable, just not the best option imo.

You’ll get limited use out of carve world tree, as barrier can prevent a lot of dmg on it’s own. (every mob skill can only be used if a enemy is within range, which is usually quite short. Hiding behind barriers is suprisingly effective vs all mobs.

Carve Owl will steal deal a good chunk of dmg, on a int build i already deal 2300 dmg per hit on average. That’s only with 300 ish int and lvl 20 enhance. And there’s 3 hits per owl’s attack.

Plus it being on a 105s cd isn’t so great for most content tbh. Higher level carve attack is most often going to be overkill, but nice none the less.

Kabbalist/Plague Doctor seem more future proof imo, and pd especially helps by adding a semi spammable dmg skill.

Ein Sof/Healing factor are also just really good support skills, which imo diev2 lacks.

[Tekmoti]

Can we attack melee mobs on melee range without being hit, while inside barrier?
Also, Carve world tree would give a nice advantage over magic enemies that barrier can’t provide? And is this advantage good enough for melee classes to enjoy hitting things without worry

I’m considering kappalist because that skill with the rolling balls is just too fun(also cant tell if it’s good without INT, I’m more into STR), maybe diev can be better(fun-wise, or just really frustrating by failing to land the owl Dx ), and Kabba offers ein sof. Thanks for reply btw :>